Live cueing of accompanying audio tracks?

Hi,
I need to cue the orchestral audio tracks which will accompany live performances (from the piano) of my piano concerto.
I want to use a footswitch to 'bring the orchestra in' and then have Logic stop automatically at the end of each passage & await my footswitch cue for the next passage; etc. for the entire 20 minute piece.
I'm thinking that markers will come into play... Can anyone enlighten me as to the best approach(es) to use?
Thanks!
Joseph

I tried an expirament........
I created a key command for the stop/start function (spacebar). I chose the loweset note on the keyboard C-2 so that logic would stop if that key is pressed. I recorded that note on midi channel 1 at the measure I wanted the song to stop. but of course the note has to come into logic not out, so I ran my midi cable out of my midi interface then directly back in again and started the sequence and how about that, logic stopped when it got to that note, so it worked.
However....
How about other midi information? how does that get to your midi keyboard?
Well hopefully you have more than one midi out on your midi interface. I have 4, so assign the midi key command to a midi out not in use by other midi keyboards and there you have it, midi stop.
Hopefully someone else has better way, but this will work in a pinch

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