Live Stream Url

I just started using the FME and FMS.
I captured a live feed and was able to send it to the FMS.
With the FMS URL: rtmp://ip:1935/live
Where ip is the IP Address of the server
Stream: livestream
now when i used the application sample providedI am able to see the live feed, GREAT.
Now when use VLC or Quicktime (not from server, from my laptop) and enter the FMS Url (rtmp://ip:1935/live also tried rtmp://ip/application/live), it does not work.
I am originally a windows media encoder and utilize windows media player, so it was very easy there.
Can some one guide me on how to see this feed from outside server and on stand alone player...
Thank you in advance to all for their help.

Thanks Jay,
But then how can we get our stream to even play on iPhone, as iPhone only supports http.
I know that there are several applications out there that output format in h.264 (which is one of the formats accepted by iPhone).
Example, youtube publishes all videos in Flah on their website, but since Phone does not support flash, they send the stream out in h.264 format (assuming they use FME).
Any thoughts on this.
Thanks.

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