Mail not working after change to iCloud

I have changed to iCloud from Mobile Me and iCloud insists that my password or ID is incorrect. It isn't incorrect - so what do I do get some sense out of Mail (because I have and old workhorse that does all the mail, and has a huge library of mail that is preserved). That means that at the moment I can't get or view my mail. I have done as advised - ie set up Mail to go to iCloud using the correct incoming and outgoing servers, but no luck.
Summary: Changed to iCloud. Access denied in Mail. I don't expect the full features of iCloud (our other machine can do that if we need it because it has Lion - bu that's not my machine).

I don't know whether the server was down, but clearly changing my passwords to 8 digit, at least one upper case and one number, helped - both accounts working once I had tracked down how to get a 10.5 machine and and iPod Touch connected, which isn't dealt with at all well by Apple. But it's all possible - you don't get the rest of iCloud, but you do get emails and stuff.

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