Making a Startup Manager bootable Hardware Test DVD?

Even with my own instructions here*:
http://www.macmaps.com/bootcd.html
I have not been able to make a Startup Manager bootable hardware test DVD backup
of my existing MacBook Pro installation DVD. Is anyone familiar with making such a copy strictly for backup purposes?
- * Links to my pages may give me compensation.

I'm close to accepting this can't be done. Just thought I'd quote from Disk Utility in Tiger before I close this issue...
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"You can create CD or DVD that you can use as a startup disk, by creating a disk image of a disk or volume that can start up your computer, and then copying that image to a CD or DVD.
Select the disk to copy it in the list of disks and volumes.
Choose File > New > "Disk Image from (name of volume)."
Type a name for the disk image
Choose "DVD/CD master" from the Image Format pop-up menu.
Click Save.
When creating the disk image finishes, eject the original CD or DVD.
Select the disk image in the list and choose Images > Burn.
When the Burn Disc dialog appears, insert a blank CD or DVD, and click Burn."
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