Managing Delta for Master Data

Hi Experts,
I'm facing a strange issue I would like to share with you.
I'm loading Master Data with DBConnect. The Delta is generated from a non-SAP source system and stored into my PSA.
My DTPs between Datasources and MD are in 'Delta' mode. Therefore, when refreshing, we should load only the new PSA Request containing the delta records... but it's not working everytime.
For some objects, it loads all PSA (ones already loaded + New delta request). I can't identify why, since it works for some other records without any problem.
I'm in SPS13.
If you have an idea, I would be quite gratefull.
Regards
Sylvain PERLA

OK, let's plan an upgrade.
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Message was edited by: Fredrik Carlsson

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waiting for your feedback
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I am not sure if the extractor enhancement methods, setup table initialisation for Master Data different from transaction data. -
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Source requests of a DTP for which this indicator is set are only transferred once, even if the DTP request is deleted in the target.
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If this indicator is set for a delta DTP, a snapshot scenario is built.
A scenario of this type may be required if you always want an InfoProvider to contain the most up-to-date dataset for a query but the DataSource on which it is based cannot deliver a delta (new, changed or deleted data records) for technical reasons. For this type of DataSource, the current dataset for the required selection can only be transferred using a 'full update'.
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