Managing shared assets? (Re-inventing the wheel)

My company has been using Eloqua for quite some time. When I joined, I found a long list of shared assets -- some dating back to the Eisenhower administration.
During my Eloqua University training, I've been encouraged to "share" assets with my team whenever possible. However, I'm not entirely clear on how to best take advantage of useful assets that a long-departed co-worker may have created.
For example, let's say that I created a shared filter that gives me a list of all people in the US who would gladly trade a cow for a sack of Magic Beans.
I save it as a shared filter (and maybe or maybe not include the optional description)
Now, assume that a co-worker in another department (perhaps in another country, who probably doesn't know me) needs to find a list of customers who are interested in Magic Beans.
Other than wading through the hundreds of shared filters that have accumulated in the system over the years, is there a "Smart" way of finding that filter (and, by extension, any useful shared asset?)
I am eager to share my new assets -- but even more eager to leverage what the more-experienced Eloquans have shared.
Thanks!!

I'm an Eloqua newbie -- in my "Fundamentals" classes, the instructors advised me that the "Descriptions" fields were ignored by the Eloqua search bots (which seemed really strange).  The question arose from my instructors urging us to "share, share, share" our assets -- but not really providing any assistance to co-workers who might benefit from those shares. (Unless you know what your co-worker wants and you tell them about it, they probably won't find your shared work.)
I stumbled across the EloquaBulkAPI document, though. When I get a bit more comfortable with the Eloqua GUI, I'll have to dig-in and play with it. 
(Are there other Eloqua APIs available?) 

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  • Share itunes music across family without sharing other things in the itunes media folder!

    I am sick and tired of itunes. seriously! apple just wont let go off its tight control over how I can configure my machine!
    i have had to create 3 user accounts on my machine (which is the only mac in my home and only used by me) just because my mom and dad each have an iphone and would want to be able to backup and update their iphones. its simply impossible to get it done from the itunes of a single user account.
    now i set the target media folder in each itunes library of each user account to the 'Shared' folder on my mac but it ends up sharing more than just the music. worst, it doesn't handle apps from each account gracefully. consequently, it failed at syncing my dad's apps to his new iphone when i restored the back up from the old one  cause there was some conflict with the same app from my user account and his. thankfully his smartphone needs are minimal and i'll only have to redownload about half a dozen apps. but this is getting more complicated by the day.
    i decided to just move the music folder to the shared folder and keep a referenced library but that means that when one user account downloads a track the others cannot access it as the track creates and exists in a new music folder inside the itunes media folder (which is not 'reseted' back to its original location).
    so now that i have the apps trauma sorted out my music needs to be manually managed! sigh. i have like 30 gb of PAID FOR itunes music (yes paid music! some legalized using itunes match and nearly half of them purchased) and i dont want my family who stays with me to purchase all of the stuff again.
    is there any graceful way of handling this?
    Message was edited by: AceNeerav

    iTunes: How to share music between different user accounts on a single computer - Apple Support
    this article mentions nothing about the conflicts created by the apps.

  • I have a new computer and I want to make it my home device for I tunes. I have home sharing, and all of the music and files are on the new computer. Now what do I do to make the new computer the home computer for Itunes?

    I have a new computer and I want to make it my home device for I tunes. I have home sharing, and all of the music and files are on the new computer. Now what do I do to make the new computer the home computer for Itunes?

    The computer (windows platform) where I initially began using Itunes has four other computers/devices that are shared with it. All four of the other computers show up in my account, and can be managed. Or I can remove them. But on the new computer that I want to be my base computer (home if you will). The computer I want it to replace, when ITunes is open, has a tool bar, with various functions. All of the other devices are linked to that computer in ITunes, under Home SHaring. The new computer, shows the downloads via Home Sharing, but it does not show/have any tool bar.
    I want to activate the new computer to be the computer via ITunes where all of the devices are linked to it as the base for ITunes. And, I don't know how to make that happen.
    I hope that makes sense.

  • What happened to the wheel in Mail?

    The little rotating indicator wheel which used to be a feature of "Mail" has gone. It was so very useful when you have a slow connection and without it I can not see whether The Mail app is attempting to send mail or not. Neither can I see when the app is attempting to receive incoming mail and on which of my accounts? It has also disappeared from "classic view" which means that the "classic view is not actually the classic view"!
    Is there a way to get my wheel back? Reinventing the wheel would have been OK but removing it makes no sense!

    Yup, it's gone. I miss it, too. And so do a lot others, there are already several threads here. But none of us has managed to bring it back. Feedback -> Apple.

  • Why doesnt Adobe just UPDATE Flash Professional? Arent they reinventing the wheel?

    Congratulations on getting to open beta with Flash Catalyst!
    I know its late in the game to mention something like this but why didnt Abobe just update Flash Professional?
    It seems that the arguments for flash Catalyst center around the following:
    1) smooth workflow between Photoshop & Illustrator, especially because of the same layer view
    2) No coding required to create components out of artwork
    3) Can create FXG  and FXPs to be used in Flash Builder
    4) Can create multi screen aplications
    1) 2) and 3) could all be solved by adding a new types of symbols to Flash Professional's 3 currently available symbols(MovieClip, Button, Graphic)
    1) could be solved by adding a new Sprite symbol.
    Flash Professional needs to be updated to keep up with and match the structure of AS3 anyway.
    Sprites were added in AS3 and now wireframe components are being added to the code structure, why not just at that on the design side as well?
    Sprites are essentially MovieClips with out a timeline.
    So if you created a new Sprite symbol and opened it up in the timeline, you would only see one frame with folders and layers.
    A Sprite symbol is essentially organized the in layers and folders and would just like a photoshop file.
    And if you really want it to look like a Photoshop layout, then you just move the timeline view over to the right.
    This would solve problem 1.  Designers could import their artwork into Flash Professional as a Sprite and it would be a seemless experience.
    Obviously I'm not saying that a bitmap is a sprite. But I am saying that layers of bitmaps and could be organized inside of a Sprite. And the designer could turn any of the assets into a Button, MovieClip, Graphic, Sprite, and hopefully other Classes and WireframeComponents available in Flash.
    2)&3) could be solved by adding a new Symbols for the new Wireframe Components. The Button symbol already has a template with 4 states. Why not update Flash Professional to visually represent more Classes and Component Classes, instead of just the MovieClip Class and the Button Class. Even better, maybe there could be a way to make a template for creating our own wireframe components. Just assign a base class for the wireframe class and a base template, and the introspection view will display accordingly.
    States of the component would be listed out at the top instead of frames,  just like the Button Symbol used to be.  Different layers could be designated for specific graphical parts of the component. The designer would be free to add their own layers if necessary.
    In previous versions of Flash, everything was a movieclip and everthing had a timeline. Thats not the case anymore. The timeline is for intropecting MovieClips, but this view could be different when intropsecting different types of symbols such as Sprites, Buttons, Wireframe Components, and even Custom Wireframe Components(extensible).
    These new Symbols and also Sprites could export to FXG very easily.
    The multi screen applications in 4) look pretty similar to the Slide Presentation Template. Why not just make a new MultiScreen App Template and youre done. these MultiScreenApp Templates could exporte Screens to FXG or export the whole Template to a FXP.
    I applaud the work done on the new wireframe components and FXG. Great Job!
    But, just cant understand why you cant update Flash Professional with new types of Symbols(Sprites, new Buttons and wireframe Component Classes) and a new MultiScreen App Template.
    Flash Professional needs to keep up with AS3 and also needs to export FXG and FXP.
    Why doesnt Adobe focus on on this rather than create a new Tool? These features need to be added to Flash Professional anyway.
    Isnt there more of a disadvantage to having 2  tools for designers that do the same thing?
    I'm sure this issue has been debated before. Can anyone point to me links that have the arguments for creating a separate tool instead of updating?
    Has anyone ever suggested that Flash Professional should keep up with AS3?
    Has anyone ever suggested making Sprites a new symbol in Flash Professional so that it could be more seamless with Photoshop?
    Has anyone ever suggested make Wireframe components in Flash Professional like the Button Symbol in Flash Professional?
    Has anyone ever suggested updating Flash Professional so that it would export FXG and FXP?
    What is your opinion on this?
    -thomasglyn

    @Ross
    Thanks for your explanation. I appreciate your feedback.
    I'm glad we agree that ideally there should be 2 main tools, one for designers(Flash Professional) and one for programming(Flash Builder).
    You had mentioned "But, that assumes this is possible.  As it currently stands it is not" and the reason being "Catalyst, and Builder both use a completely different framework from Professional. The component architecture is drastically different, not to mention the entire backend of the software.".
    You could also argue that, the reasons to make a separate flex component creation tool like Flash Catalyst assumes that updating Flash Professional CS4 is NOT possible. But is the statement about the framework being entirely different really true?
    Well, that depends on what you mean by the term "framework".
    Framework can refer to 3 things in this case.
    1) the component framework
    2) the code framework(AS3)
    3) the flex framework (mxml, fxg)
    If you are refering to #1 then you're right, because Adobe hasnt updated the flash component framework in Flash Professional from Flex3 Halo components to Flex4 Spark components.
    Flash components have gone through many iterations, and the switch from AS2 to AS3 was probably more profound than the new wireless component structure(Spark). And now that we have AS3, isnt the only difficulty creating a intuitive UI in Flash Professional, and adding export features?
    If you are refering to #2 then I think you're incorrect, because Flash Professional has been updated to AS3 and Flex4 Spark components use AS3. I would totally agree with you, if CS4 did not go through all of the trouble updating to AS3.
    If you are refering to #3 then you're right, because Flash Professional doesnt export mxml, fxg, or fxp, but with a little creativity, it would probably be possible to allow such an export. Adding FXG/FXP export features could be solved by creating a new type of project file.  Adobe did this for AS2, AS3, flash lite, etc. Why cant they just make a new AS3/FXG file that only allows you to build fxg/fxp exportable assets.
    Why cant Adobe make a Sprite class the default document class for AS3/FXG projects and when some adds a movie clip asset, export movie clips as swfs or swcs?
    So to be honest, after opening up Flash Catalyst again and looking at it again, I almost get the feeling that its just a Flash Component creation tool with a Photoshop UI, for the new AS3/Flex 4 components(Spark components) that Adobe just refuses to add to CS4.  CS4 uses AS3 and Spark components use AS3.  CS4 needs to be a visual design tool for all the classes in AS3(as much as possible).
    Perhaps Adobe originally meant to name this product...
    ADOBE FLASH COMPONENTS
    Or maybe Adobe Flex Components(but thats no longer true, because Flex 4 will be Flash Builder).
    In regard to "reinventing the wheel". Flash components have been reinvented several times, and I totally agree with you that this is important to "reinvent" components to keep up with new techiques as2,as3,fxg.  You are right, this is a positive thing. However in this case, I am using "reinvent in a negative sense.
    So maybe I shouldnt say "reinvent the wheel", but "reinvent the car".
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