Mapping every record in a given message type to an IDoc

Hi all,
As per the requirement, I have a message type which stores a number of records from the database. The root node of the message type repeats as many times as the number of records. I need to map this message type to an IDoc with an IDoc created for each record. However, the pre-defined structure of IDoc has the root node occuring only once. Can the mapping of every record to an IDoc be acheived by using Message tab of the message mapping to have the IDoc occurence as 0..unbounded?
Thanks,
Amit

Hi,
In message mapping Change the occurence of the IDOC as 0 to unbounded in the Target message inside Messages Tab.
Also change the occurrence of IDOC in the Interface mapping as 0 to unbounded.
Thanks,
Tiny
Edited by: TINY MAMPILLY on May 7, 2009 11:14 AM

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