Material third party

some materials are stocked, but if got a big sales order the
material send to customer directly from vendor,
if it's not a big order (quantity), we send it from stock/warehouse.
(this material can be as third party or stock item).
If I setup item category as BANS, is it possible
to purchase for stock? if yes, What happen
during the order processing ? (use stock or
third party ?)
can anybody help what is the solution ?
Thank you guru

hi
i think this can be done by BANS as item category group in MM01
and in VOV4 item category assignment
orbanstas+tan can solve the problem
tas in dfltc=default item category
tan in mlitc= manual item category
while creating sales order manually change the item category to tas and and enter the quantity to be purchased in the second line
for example if u have a stock of 50 goods and a customer places order for 100
then in sales order first enter materil with 50 quantity
and in second line enter materil with 50 qty and change the item category tan to tas
please check i am not sure

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Hi sap gurus,
please find one senario mentioned below
i have raised a sales order with 630 units of a third party material, followed by
630 units of Tata Swach Crystal were sold to M/s Friendu2019s Combine Indore (Madhya Pradesh) through third party sale order from TWGZ plant (Uttarpradesh) on 30/11/2011.
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Firstly, let me request you not to disclose the Client's business details (like Customer Name, Vendor Name, Material Name, Plant codes, etc) on Public Forums.
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