Maxextent of PSAPTEMP = 0 : normal ?

Hello,
SAP release ; ECC6
Oracle release : Oracle 10.2
Unix : Solaris 10
We had the following error this morning while trying to reorganize an index :
ORA-01652: unable to extend temp segment by 128 in tablespace PSAPTEMP
I was about to add new datafile to the tableblace PSAPTEMP but I noticed strange parameters related to this tablespace :
Tablespace Init ext.(Kb) Next ext.(Kb) Min ext. Max ext. Pct-Inc.
PSAPSR3 64 0 1 Unlimited 0
PSAPSR3700 64 0 1 Unlimited 0
PSAPSR3DB 64 0 1 Unlimited 0
PSAPSR3USR 64 0 1 Unlimited 0
PSAPTEMP 1.024 1.024 1 0 0
PSAPUNDO 64 0 1 Unlimited 0
SYSAUX 64 0 1 Unlimited 0
SYSTEM 64 0 1 Unlimited 0
Tablespace Size (kb) Free (kb) Used (%)Tab/ind Extents
PSAPTEMP 2.324.480 2.324.480 0 0 0
The Tablespace is empty.
The Maxextent of tablespace PSAPTEMP is null, in all our ECC6 environnements,
and has never been modified. I wanted to change it to "unlimited", I've searched in BRGUI, but I couln't find where i can do that. I presume it can be done using an alter command ?
So my questions are :
1/ Is it a "normal" setting in Oracle 10.2 to have the maxextent of PSAPTEMP = 0
2/ If not, how can I change, the maxextent size of PSAPTEMP ?
Thank you for your attention.
Any useful help would be highly appreciated.
Best Regards.

Hello Michael,
>> temp tablespaces have tempfiles instead of datafiles, they never hold data, they don't need to be backup-ed / recovered
Not up to 100%
In previous releases it was possible to make a temporary tablespace as a type of permanent. But you are right.. if you create the tablespace as temporary.. you are not able to add some datafiles to it.
But now i have read the question of the topic creator again.. and i have to say that i have read out the first time.
>> 1/ Is it a "normal" setting in Oracle 10.2 to have the maxextent of PSAPTEMP = 0
Yes this is normal and described in metalinknote #108971.1
>This behavior is documented. MAXEXTENTS is ignored for temporary tablespaces. As stated in the SQL Reference guide, only NEXT is noted for temporary tablespaces.
Regards
Stefan

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