Measuring pulses through a current module?

Hello,
I am new to LabView. I have a flow meter(PNP Hall effect) that is pulsing between 0 and 18 Amps (essentially a 0-24V square wave) and going into a cDAQ current module(NI 9203). How can I use labVIEW to measure the frequency of the pulse?
Thankyou,
Kirkland

The NI 9203 does not have a counter on it so before you try using a counter you mush validate that you have a counter on your system. If you are using a newer usb chassis for your backplane of the NI 9203 you can use on of the builtin counters and use one of your pfi lines to do this. MAKE SURE YOU CONDITION THE VOLTAGE TO TTL levels because you mentioned that you have a 24V signal, and you want to input ~5V max on most counters. I assumed that you have no counters avaliable that is why I suggested the ineligant method of continious sampleing (at >2x your max frequency) and processing the signal for frequency using the signal processing palette.
Paul Falkenstein
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friendly heads up, but this is more of a DAQ post and you will
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