Migration and Firewire Qustion

Got my new 17" MBP today and want to do a migration from my old (2006) MBP. Pretty straight forward question: What type of firewire cable do I need? The firewire cable I tried to use seems to fit the old MBP but doesn't fit the new MBP. Have firewire cables been updated since my last Mac purchase? Do I need some conversion type of firewire -- like a large end for the old MBP and a small end for the new MBP? Hmmm. I'm sitting here somewhat mystified. I wonder what my solution is...

With due respect to Tuttle his post is incorrect. I believe your old machine uses Firewire 400 and the new machine is Firewire 800. In this case you need a Firewire 400 - 800 cable like this one. You can find them at your local computer store, Radio Shack or if you don't mind waiting a few days from Amazon.
Roger

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Migration and Firewire

Hello,
I am getting ready to purchase a new iMac and a new Apple laptop (I am still unsure which model). Because of this, I know that I will be needing to migrate everything that I have from my current 15 inch Macbook Pro, which is operating Tiger 10.4.11. I will be needing to purchase a firewire cable so that I will be able to perform the migration. I noticed that in the Apple store there are several different firewire cables ranging from I believe $14.99 and $29.99. I am hoping that someone can tell me which one will be the best one for me to get. Also, I have never done a migration before. Will I only need one firewire cable? Are the firewire cables compatible with all the Mac models? Also, is there anything else I will need to purchase or know before I perform the migration? Thank you.

Any standard Firewire cable will do for FW400.
Be sure to upgrade your current system to the same version as on your new computer to avoid any migration pitfalls or see the following:
A Basic Guide for Migrating to Intel-Macs
If you are migrating a PowerPC system (G3, G4, or G5) to an Intel-Mac be careful what you migrate. Keep in mind that some items that may get transferred will not work on Intel machines and may end up causing your computer's operating system to malfunction.
Rosetta supports "software that runs on the PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor that are built for Mac OS X". This excludes the items that are not universal binaries or simply will not work in Rosetta:
Classic Environment, and subsequently any Mac OS 9 or earlier applications
Screensavers written for the PowerPC
System Preference add-ons
All Unsanity Haxies
Browser and other plug-ins
Contextual Menu Items
Applications which specifically require the PowerPC G5
Kernel extensions
Java applications with JNI (PowerPC) libraries
See also What Can Be Translated by Rosetta.
In addition to the above you could also have problems with migrated cache files and/or cache files containing code that is incompatible.
If you migrate a user folder that contains any of these items, you may find that your Intel-Mac is malfunctioning. It would be wise to take care when migrating your systems from a PowerPC platform to an Intel-Mac platform to assure that you do not migrate these incompatible items.
If you have problems with applications not working, then completely uninstall said application and reinstall it from scratch. Take great care with Java applications and Java-based Peer-to-Peer applications. Many Java apps will not work on Intel-Macs as they are currently compiled. As of this time Limewire, Cabos, and Acquisition are available as universal binaries. Do not install browser plug-ins such as Flash or Shockwave from downloaded installers unless they are universal binaries. The version of OS X installed on your Intel-Mac comes with special compatible versions of Flash and Shockwave plug-ins for use with your browser.
The same problem will exist for any hardware drivers such as mouse software unless the drivers have been compiled as universal binaries. For third-party mice the current choices are USB Overdrive or SteerMouse. Contact the developer or manufacturer of your third-party mouse software to find out when a universal binary version will be available.
Also be careful with some backup utilities and third-party disk repair utilities. Disk Warrior 4.1, TechTool Pro 4.6.1, SuperDuper 2.5, and Drive Genius 2.0.2 work properly on Intel-Macs with Leopard. The same caution may apply to the many "maintenance" utilities that have not yet been converted to universal binaries. Leopard Cache Cleaner, Onyx, TinkerTool System, and Cocktail are now compatible with Leopard.
Before migrating or installing software on your Intel-Mac check MacFixit's Rosetta Compatibility Index.
Additional links that will be helpful to new Intel-Mac users:
Intel In Macs
Apple Guide to Universal Applications
MacInTouch List of Compatible Universal Binaries
MacInTouch List of Rosetta Compatible Applications
MacUpdate List of Intel-Compatible Software
Transferring data with Setup Assistant - Migration Assistant FAQ
Because Migration Assistant isn't the ideal way to migrate from PowerPC to Intel Macs, using Target Disk Mode or copying the critical contents to CD and DVD or an external hard drive will work better when moving from PowerPC to Intel Macs.
Basically the instructions you should follow are:
1. Backup your data first. This is vitally important in case you make a mistake or there's some other problem.
2. Connect a Firewire cable between your old Mac and your new Intel Mac.
3. Startup your old Mac in Target Disk Mode.
4. Startup your new Mac for the first time, go through the setup and registration screens, but do NOT migrate data over. Get to your desktop on the new Mac without migrating any new data over.
4. Copy the following items from your old Mac to the new Mac:
In your /Home/ folder: Documents, Movies, Music, Pictures, and Sites folders.
In your /Home/Library/ folder:
/Home/Library/Application Support/AddressBook (copy the whole folder)
/Home/Library/Application Support/iCal (copy the whole folder)
Also in /Home/Library/Application Support (copy whatever else you need including folders for any third-party applications)
/Home/Library/Keychains (copy the whole folder)
/Home/Library/Mail (copy the whole folder)
/Home/Library/Preferences/ (copy the whole folder)
/Home /Library/Calendars (copy the whole folder)
/Home /Library/iTunes (copy the whole folder)
/Home /Library/Safari (copy the whole folder)
If you want cookies:
/Home/Library/Cookies/Cookies.plist
/Home/Library/Application Support/WebFoundation/HTTPCookies.plist
For Entourage users:
Entourage is in /Home/Documents/Microsoft User Data
Also in /Home/Library/Preferences/Microsoft
Credit goes to Macjack for this information.
If you need to transfer data for other applications please ask the vendor or ask in the Discussions where specific applications store their data.
5. Once you have transferred what you need restart the new Mac and test to make sure the contents are there for each of the applications.
Written by Kappy with additional contributions from a brody.
Revised 3/12/2008

HT204350 The instructions for "Migrating using FireWire or ThunderBolt" are WRONG

The instructions for "Migrating using FireWire or ThunderBolt" in this article are wrong for a transfer from a Mountain Lion Mac to a Mavericks Mac. You should not put the source Mac in target disk mode. Rather, you should start up Migration Assistant on the source Mac and choose "To another Mac"

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20" Cinema display with USB and firewire ports not working

I have a new 20" display and was wondering why my USB and fire wire ports at the back are not working. I have an external drive that is powered hooked up to the fire wire port and a no powered piano keyboard to a usb port.
Any help please

Verify that the display’s USB and FireWire cables are firmly plugged in to the
computer. Do they show in your profiler?
Try different ports in the computer.
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Migration and SAP Support for BW 3.1

Hi,
I have couple of queries regarding Migration and SAP Support.
What is the required patch level that need to be mantained in BW 3.1 for a direct upgrade to BI 7.
I would like to know whether SAP still supports BW 3.1. I searched in SAP Service marketplace, but didn't get much information regarding this.
Your inputs are highly appreciated.
Regards,
Hari

Hello,
BW Upgrade from 3.x to 7.0
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/index?rid=/library/uuid/e62b9990-0201-0010-42a7-ddcf5c93cafd
Hope it will help you.
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I know my back up exists I can see it on disk utility but migration and disc utility wont work to restore my back up on my new hard drive it shows up with the message "this disk is already in use" i am so done. someone pls help me

I know my back up exists I can see it on disk utility but migration and disc utility wont work to restore my back up on my new hard drive it shows up with the message "this disk is already in use" i am so done. someone pls help me

Otherwise software may be attempted to access the drive. The the computer up in Safe Mode by holding shift when you turn it on. Also be sure to power off and on the hard drive itself.

What is wrong with my 30" Cinema Display? The USB and FireWire ports still work, but the screen is pitch black. When you plug it into the computer, it detects that it's a Cinema Display.

When you plug it into the computer, it detects that it's a Cinema HD but the screen is pitch black.
For some reason, the USB and FireWire ports still work.

If you shine a really bright light directly into the screen can you then see a faint image on the screen? If so, that would indicate the backlight has died (hardware failure) and the unit needs repairing.

Live Migration and private network

Is it a best practice to put up a Private Network beetween the nodes in a pool (reserving a few network cards and switch ports for it), to have a dedicated network for the traffic generated e.g. by live migration and/or ocfs2 heartbeat? I was wondering why such setup is generally recommended in other virtualization solutions, but apparently it's not considered strictly necessary in OVM... Why? Are there any docs regarding this? I couldn't find any.
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Hi Roynor,
regarding the physical separation beetween management+hypervisor and the guest VMs, it's now implemented and working...
My next doubt on the list of doubts :-) at this point is:
I could easily set up ONE MORE dedicated bond, create a Bridge with a private IP on it on each server (e.g. 10.xxx.xxx.xxx), and then create a Private VLAN completely insulated from the rest of the world.
I'd be putting the physical switch ports where the Private Bonds/Bridges belong to on the same VLAN ID.
But:
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In Oracle VM such setting does not exist... Neither during installation, nor in VM Manager, nowhere.
- Apart from Security, I'm doubting that during heavy VMs migration problems could arise, because if the network gets saturated, there are chances that the OCFS2 heartbeat would be somehow "lost", therefore messing up HA etc. This is at least the reason why in a RAC setup a private network is highly recommended.
- I finally found that doc you mention from IBM (thanks for pointing it out!) but my opinion is that THEIR INTENTION was to separate the traffic at the same way I'd like to, but there is simply NO PROOF that such setup would work... They do not mention where you can specify what traffic you want to be on what network...
This is a very important point... I'm wondering why this lack of information.
Thanks for your feedback, btw
Edited by: rlomba on Dec 17, 2009 6:16 AM

Apple's Technical Service Provider complaint and Firewire Target Disk solution

As being my first post, my greetings to the community!
First of all, I would like to clarify that despite I start with a post that includes some negative comments for the Apple's Technical Support Service Provider, which I visited for my problem, I wouldn't like to give the impression that I want to generally spread a negative attitude against them, but only to describe my specific issue. Anyway, only that I haven't visited them so far, after over a 3-year period of using my computer, is a self-explained positive aspect. I've also read that complaints should refer directly to customer's support service, though it is the users with whom I want to share the knowledge resulting from my last experience.
My story/problem has been as following: My computer has failed to boot, I tried some of the tips and advices online and due to the facts that I didn't have the installation disk with me and that I was under stress to recover some of my files, I was urgently needing, I decided to visit an Apple's Technical Support Service Provider. I was hoping for a quick solution, since from the beginning it wouldn't seem to be a hardware failure. I had read about the Target Disk Mode utility and I was at least looking forward to a backup, in case my hard drive was still functioning.
For starters, the provider I finally visited (Sofia, Bulgaria), was not mentioned on the Apple's web page locator. However, I first visited a Reseller, who directed me to the technical service office (other building). Also for starters, I would like to mention that the personnel was totally polite in every case. Now, for the main issue. The technician there connected my laptop via Ethernet cable to another computer, ran a test, which showed that the hardware was working and replied that he cannot know the problem, so I have to leave my computer there for 2-3 days, in order to examine it thoroughly. Luckily, I would leave the country in 2 days and I was needing the files the same day or maximum the following one, so I couldn't follow this option. "Luckily", though, while for the moment I saved 40 euros, the price for examining my problem, regardless spare parts that might would be needed and a value for a backup that I would have might asked. I explained him that I don't have the installation disk with me, just in case he could do the repair disk there, and that I read somewhere that the computer could be connected to another computer via Firewire cable and the hard disk to be seen as an external hard disk, giving me the chance to recover the files I was urgently desiring. The answer to the above was that I can only leave the computer there and I would be informed in 2-3 days. I respect the priority I had to share with other customers, but, on the other hand, to backup 2-3 files and save my life, I don't consider it (specially now that I know) a big of a deal. More important, he wouldn't give me any advice to follow myself. Conservative policy to secure responsibility issues from their part or to secure the payment for a potential check in their house?
First, I didn't try to search for the solution, provided that I didn't have any clue from the technician and that there was no chance to find someone with another mac, but also while I couldn't risk to loose time to search for a backing up solution rather to start immediately with remaking my project (I was using 3ds Max, therefore I could work on a Windows pc). So, following is the next level of my problem and the final solution.
When I got free time, I searched more and while, as I mentioned, I couldn't find another mac, I ended up to the option of being able to mount my mac's hdd to a Windows pc, after using a 3rd-party application (MacDrive in my case) and Firewire cable to link the 2 computers (Target Disk Mode). The result was that the hard disk of my mac was recognised at the Control Panel's Devices, but wouldn't be browsed. It turned to be hard to find information related to my problem, since I guess not many people have faced the exact one. The credits for the solution go here http://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/Firewire-1.htm (thank you so much), were there's an article related to how to solve Windows 7 Firewire issues. The problem was that the Firewire drivers had to switched back to the older version (legacy), which is strange, but it worked perfectly. I'm currently happily backing up my disk.
I hope this post will save time and pain for people having the same issues and I'm sorry for the thorough details I've used in order to describe accurately my concerns.
Cheers!

thanks neil, the laptop originally came with a 10 gig ibm deathstar ata drive which i replaced a couple of years ago with a 40 gig ata. i thought that maybe some necessary drivers weren't installed onto the drive since it isn't an apple branded drive but i couldn't find anything online or on apple's site to confirm that.
the titanium's ATA is controlled via cable select right?

Attaching VGA video adapter and Firewire device

I'm using the VGA video adapter to attach my brand new Mac mini to a VGA screen. As the space between video port and Firewire port is too narrow with the VGA video adapter attached I can't connect any Firewire cable!
Anyone who knows how to connect VGA video adapter and Firewire device at the same time?

The DVI-VGA adapter I got with my last mini was barely wider than the video port on the back of the mini and since a firewire connector is also barely wider than the FW port itself, there was no problem connecting to both at the same time, with a small but distinct space between. Indeed, it's about the same space as between the adapter and a cable plugged into the nearest of the USB ports on the other side.
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Difference Between Phased Migration and Parallel-cutover and which is better considering Roll-back if something unexpected occurs

Difference Between Phased Migration and Parallel-cutover and whcih is better considering Roll-back if something unexpected occurs
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Does Target Disk Mode work between FireWire 400 and FireWire 800 ports?

Can I mount one as an external volume for the other Mac and vice versa? The one with FireWire 400 port runs on OS X 10.5, and FireWire 800 one has OS X 10.6 installed. If it works, I am thinking of buying an 800-400 adapter.

Can I mount one as an external volume for the other Mac and vice versa?
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M-Audio 1814 and FireWire 800

I am working on a MBP and Logic 8, using the Vienna Symphonic Library on external hard drives, one 250 GB LaCie, the second a 500 GB Maxtor. When I use the external hard drives with FireWire 800 first the Audio Interface starts clicking, using Logic 8 the system crashes seriously. If I use the FireWire Hub on the back of my Cinema Display, the 1814 is not recognized.
For the use of the VI-Library I need fast hard drives, the CPU seems not to be the problem. Why I cannot use FireWire 400 (Audio Interface) and Firewire 800 hard drives?

Thank you Chris, I just wonder why Bee Jay can use the HD FW800 with the M-Audio Firewire interface without problems.
I use the ext HD for backup too, but sometimes I need to find something in my backups and I have to turn off the audio interface and copy the files on my internal HD ... then turn off the drive again and turn on the M-Audio ... it's very annoying.
In some forum I read that the problem can be the firewire chipset, but my iMac has the Lucent and the MacBook Pro has the TI (reccomended by M-Audio) ... same problem on both machines.
I did some test:
1) If I use the FW800 external HD and the FW400 with iMovie and my Video Camcorder I have no problem at all. I tried to use the HD at maximum (during a time machine backup I was copying other files and saving the HDV files in the same external HD) and everything works perfectly without loosing a single frame.
2) If I connect the HDV camcorder to the M-Audio interface I cannot even start the capture ... I have to turn off the external FW800 HD.
It looks that the problem is definitely in the M-Audio Firewire driver but unfortunatley the M-Audio e-mail support is only for US customers ... and I'm Italian.
Is there any US customer that has this problem and can insist with the M-Audio support?
Maybe they can solve it in the next release ...
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I noticed yesterday that when I adjust the brightness up or down on my display ( I have an original 15" Apple Studio Display) the graphic that used to appear showing the brightness level no longer appears but the brightness does change. Also, I have my Epson USB printer connected to one of the USB ports in the monitor and it no longer appears in my Printer list and now I can not print.
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Hi Kaaru Ando ,
I can't find how to just ask a question.
Yes, it can be hard to find... the problem is if there are Categories at the top, you won't see the Post New Topic link, like here...
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