MM Account determination with valuated/non valuated sales order stock!

Hi All,
I have been trying to set up MM account determination in our project for sales order assigned POs.What I have observed is that when I have a PO with sales order assignment and according to requirement class (coming through reqt type) in sales order it is valuated sales order stock then in the PO we get the stock account determined through BSX key. But when it is non valuated sales order stock we get a different account assigned through GBB-VKA key. In both the cases the account assignment category in the PO is "E".
Can someone please explain what is the connection between valuated/non valuated sales order stock and MM account determination and if what is happening is right from account determination point of view?
Regards,
V S

These are two different postings:
BSX: stock posting
GBB: Offsetting entry for stock posting
Stock posting (BSX)
This transaction is used for all postings to stock accounts. Such
postings are effected, for example:
-   In inventory management in the case of goods receipts to own
    stock and goods issues from own stock
-   In invoice verification, if price differences occur in
    connection with incoming invoices for materials valuated at
    moving average price and there is adequate stock coverage
-   In order settlement, if the order is assigned to a material with
    moving average price and the actual costs at the time of
    settlement vary from the actual costs at the time of goods
    receipt
Offsetting entry for stock posting (GBB)
Offsetting entries for stock postings are used in Inventory
Management. They are dependent on the account grouping to which each
movement type is assigned. The following account groupings are
defined in the standard system:
-   VKA:     for sales order account assignment
         (for example, for individual purchase order)

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For a Non Valuated PO is it necessary to create a Accounting Document at the time of GR.
If So how to assign GL for KBS as account determination is not Possible for KBS in OBYC.
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Yes. it has to be in unchecked mode.i regret the same.
SAP Help wording 'Purchase order with account assignment (KBS)
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/90/7155967935d1118b3f0060b03ca329/frameset.htm
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Hello Allabaqsh,
How did you solve the problem?
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Can anybody tell me the difference between the above said subject with the steps involved in each scenario.
That is valuated sale order stock and Non valuated sale order stock in Product cost by Sale Order.
With Journal entries at each step and whether any WIP or variances at Production order level and sale order level and all the financial entries related to them
Thanks in Advance,
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Hi Shail,
Thans for your inputs,
But I wanted to know it in more detail. In what scenarios they are used with financial entries in both the cases.
I will give you my scenario. It goes like this,
My client is in pipe coating business, who receives pipes from customers and does only coating work(which is considered as service) and despatches it to the customer. this process is carried on the basis of work order(Sale order).
Now Production order is created and work is done on that with reference to Sale order for that particular customer.
So the pipe which my client receives should be non valuated stock as it will not be a raw material to them and the cost incurred on it is booked on production order like chemicals as raw material consumption, activity cost etc.
now in this scenario just tell me how and at which stage FI entries get generated at Production order and Sale order level, and also at wat level Standard cost estimate should be created i,e at production order level or sale order level(sale order cost estimate).
Will there be any entries at goods isssue and GR against production order. If no then how the COGM account will get hit.
Please tell me this scenario in both cases Valuated sale order stock and Non valuated sale order stock with financial entries in Sale order costing.
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Non valuated sales order stock-help reqd

Dear Experts,
My client is into Pipe coating business who receives the pipe from the customers, coats it as per there requirements and dispatches it thereon. There is no concept of FG here as its only the service he is doing on it and also when he receives the pipe there is no raw material cost on it. Raw materials for him would be chemicals etc which he uses to coat the pipe.
This is the case of NON Valuated sales order stock.
1) non valuated GR will be done for customer stock -Only QTY update
2) sales order bom will be created with defined characteristic.
3) Plan cost of sales order will be updated based on Costing ID setting
4)Production order will be created based on Sales order.Good issue and Activity confirmation happen at Production order level but Good received only QTY but no value update.
5)Production order will be settled on sales order.Settlement profile of production order type must contain COST ELEMENT tick under settlement.
6)now my sales order contain actual cost of production.
7)No accounting document will be generated at PGI.
8)only accounting document will be generated at Billing.
9)Only COPA Document will be generated at Sales order settlement. I am going to create PA transfer structure in order to post COGM cost component wise.
Mi missing something?
Question
1) Whether all steps are correct
2) There will be no standard cost release and no variance calculation as well.
3)How can i use RA under non valuated sales order stock?.
4)HOw can i use customer stock under sales order bom with non valuated value?
5)How i will do Production order GR Only qty update?
regards
RK

Hi Raman
All steps are correct.. You seem to be an expert now!
THere wil be no Std cost release or variance calc
You can set up RA based on costs or Revenue... 1st of all check with your client whether they would like to have any WIP in this case
you can receive the customer supplied pipe using 501E movement as Non val
GR - Only Qty Update is controlled by Req Class... You need to leave Valuation field BLanlk in Req CLass and choose Acct Assn Catg E
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