Motu 828mk3 With Logic 8

Hey guys,
Just upgraded to a Motu Mk3...having issues getting any sound out of Logic (and reason for that matter)
Its all set up properly and is working fine with Itunes...although once i open up logic...it trys to send the output signal to the analog channels and not master out.
I have selected all the right things in preferences but it still continues not to work.
any advice?
Your help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Matt

In Logic you need to set the outputs to Output 9-10. It is strange but it is the way Logic does it.

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