Move to Lion

Hello all,
I am running Snow Leopard and had purchased iLife 11 DVD/CD and using it.
I want to move to Lion from AppStore and use Clean install method (format SL and install Lion).
As I understand Lion will not accompany iLife. I have few questions
After doing CLEAN install of Lion – can I use iLife 11 DVD to install iLife 11 Apps?
Will Apps(iphoto/imovie...) run in FULL screen mode?
If above is possible. Then I will DVD to install iLife11 on Lion
3. In this case, will AppStore show that I have iLife lic and future bug fixes and upgrade can be done from AppStore?
How does it work? It is not very clear from disussions elsewhere.
Thanks,
Abhishek

A clean install is a pointless exercise. I have no idea what is "clean" about it. It adds no benefit whatever. I've been updating since System7 and never used it. Save yourself time and energy by doing it the way it's designed to be done.
Yes you can install from the DVD after upgrading to 10.7
Yes, the Apps that support it will run in Full Screen after updating to the current version.
Yes the App Store will know you have these apps, but no, you do no Update via the App Store. You update via the Software Update mechanism. Only apps purchased on the App store are updated that way.
Regards
TD

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Purchased emailed download code here.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/D6106Z/A/os-x-lion
To use OS X 10.7 Lion, make sure your computer has the following:
An Intel Core 2 Duo, Core i3, Core i5, Core i7, or Xeon processor
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To install OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion, 10.9 Mavericks (free upgrade, but currently unavailable) or OS X 10.10 Yosemite (currently available free upgrade) you need one of these Macs:
OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion purchased emailed download code here.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/D6377Z/A/os-x-mountain-lion
iMac (Mid-2007 or later)
MacBook (13-inch Aluminum, Late 2008), (13-inch, Early 2009 or later)
MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid-2009 or later),
MacBook Pro (15-inch or 17-inch, Mid/Late 2007 or later)
MacBook Air (Late 2008 or later)
Mac mini (Early 2009 or later)
Mac Pro (Early 2008 or later)
Xserve (Early 2009)
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Also, check for app compatibilty here.
http://roaringapps.com/
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These types of apps will only cause your Mac issues later after the install of the new OS X version and you will have to completely uninstall these types of apps later.
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http://www.macworld.com/article/165337/2012/02/create_a_bootable_lion_install_dr ive_for_newer_macs.html
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