Movie Studio HD Platinum 11 Bit Rate Bug

Every time I try to set the bit rate, under the render as feature, to 13,500,000 it just goes back to 192,000 so I can't save it as a preset. It also changes back if I switch between tabs. However, if I just hit OK with the bit rate at 13,500,000 then it goes through but I constantly have to change it when I render. Any solutions or is it bugged?

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