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woodwizer,
the mov export is here ( final test export  )
http://rodneybauer.com/whiteboard3.htm
right click and use 'save link as" option...and you can save the file
the web upload ( youtube which is not so great quality wise...but thats youtube ) is here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGm1VEG8zxs
-------------using other web site related video ( not youtube ) delivery will give better results...and you can adjust bitrate on export too...make it nicer...I only used 2300kbps----------
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGm1VEG8zxs
as you can see , different things happen on web delivery than other formats...and the uploaded file I used is the one you see on the above link...the letterbox format inside the 720x576 4:5 space...
this didnt require any re-capturing of tapes and so on...just exporting mov wrapper as progressive etc as explained in my confusing earlier posts...and avoids the problems with dv avi or avi exports and so on...because of the hd anamorphic 1.333 original source...
subsequently, you can convert all footage from HD to the mov wrapper and then edit, and then export your edit, and then upload to web and then have a pretty decent product, I think....
If you go interleaved with dv pal recapture in sd my opinion is that you will lose half your vertical resolution going to progressive when you go to the web....you can see the "web" handles it differently maybe from the above link to youtube... ?

Answer 1

I will start with the camera
Its a Canon A1 which can shoot in progressive but puts the footage as interlaced on tape.
1440x1080 with non square pixels and a PAR of 1.33, also known as anamophic widescreen.
As Woodwice has an underpowered laptop there is no way he can edit 8 tapes of hdv with several houndereds of clips in CS4.
CS4 cannot handle large projects. Or he has to make every tape into a project.
He did mention he was able to edit SD without any problem.
So problem solved. Convert the already captured footage or recapture as SD with the camera.
Downconverting in the camera will often give a better result than most software converters.
Using a converter like Aunsoft wont do the job because its for AVCHD (tapeless stuff) which has the extention of MTS/m2ts and is quite
different from HDV footage which Woodwice captured with HDV split and gave him m2t. Premiere gives .mpeg but no scene detection.
Using AME to get HDV to SD in CS4 will give you small vertikal lines this is because they (Adobe) changed the PAR. So CS4 handles convertion
somewhat different than CS3. The second converted avi which plays wonky is imo probably corrupted by K-lite codec pack).
All of John's suggestions but one are unusable.
Corel is a NLE
Womble is an mpeg editor
Magix is a NLE
NCH will convert to dv avi but not from m2t
Daniussoft is a dvd ripper
Deskhare will only convert SD.
Topshoftware dvd only
DVD decrypter dvd only
Squared 5: finally one that can do m2t to dv avi.
Super can do it probably too, but gives you all sorts of codecs you do not want.
Finally mpeg virtual dub. You will not find this on the regular site.
Its specially made, you have to Google, and it does not handle m2t (changing extention makes it crash).
IMO TMPGenc 4 Express is a good converter but not cheap.
Proxy editing is out of the question if one has to render and export on the same underpowered rig.
MPEG Pro HD 4 Plug-In could work but is expensive. 160 dollars.
Have my doubts about Cineform on this rig.
PAL or ntsc dv avi can never be progressive.
the only dv avi that can be progressieve is 24p.
DV avi can never have square pixels.
A dv avi pal is always lower field, non square pixel either 4:3 or widescreen and 720x576.
CS3 has a different par for the dv avi then cs4/5 does.
If you want square pixels in a pal widescreen sequence you will have to use a different codec or uncompressed and change the dimensions for cs3 its 1024x576 for cs4/5 its 1050x576.
In my opinion mov is for the Mac. avi is for PC.
Now for choosing a sequence setting.
HDV: 1440x1080, pal is 25 fps and widescreen 1.33 non square
CS4/5 has ready made presets for this type of footage (and so has cs3 i believe). There is no need to go and make one yourself, especially if you do not know what you are doing. If the footage does not play well its usually the HW.
As the A1 puts its footage interlaced (two fields) on tape there is no need to choose 25p. An interlaced sequence will work just a well. No harm in using a progressive timeline.
Converting HDV to SD (dv avi) can be done in AME (not Premiere, AME is a seperate programm now, you can fill it with footage and batch convert) but it will give you the narrow black bars on each side (see my screendump somewhere in the thread, post 26) This is not an 'issue' in CS3 because it still has the old PAR settings. In CS4 you can crop the footage in the export settings but that will take even longer to convert.
If you capture the HDV footage as SD in the camera you will have no issue with the black bars. One gets clean SD widescreen footage.
Post 52: these are invalid settings will never work for dv avi.
Now when the whole project is edited in a SD widescreen pal lower field first project.
One can export to dvd or the web.
The export to dvd stays interlaced. For the web one can choose e.g. wmv or mp4 both will need deinterlacing on export.
Hope this helps.
PS never going to write a long post as this again