MTO--Cost component transfer to COPA

Hi Friends,
I have MTO with sale order as cost object. It means COPA documnet will be created not at the time of billing but at the time of Sale order settlement. So first i have finished the production order settlement , then sale order settlement. While doing this system is transferring to COPA cogs as single amount but it has to go cost component wise.
Please advise me.
Regards
Rajesh A

Hi,
There is no problem in Cost component. Problem is that for each cost component i am not able to transfer to more than one value field. In my example CASH COST is not a cost compone , its description of the value field.
Cost componet is Raw materiala ( fixed+ variable ) = i want to transfer to two value field - 1. Material and 2 .Cash cost.
But somehow system is updating the value only to the first value field which in this case material but not updating the second value field which Cash cost.
Regards
Ranjan

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After your reply, I am getting a doubt..
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