Cost component split transfer for Profit center valuation in ke27

Dear All,
We have activated multiple valuation/transfer prices. Material ledger is also activated.
We want to transfer cost component split to CO-PA by ke27.
We have defined separate costing keys for access to actual cost estimate for legal and profit center valuations.
But cost component split transfer to COPA works only for legal valution. Even we have defined type of valution for profit center costing key -transfer cost component split and total costs.
What should be else customized to transfer cost components splitting in profit center valuation to CO-PA from actual cost estimates?
With best regards,
Kamila.

Hi,
I have assigned the same value fields used for legal valuation to column 2, which was pointed in message.
But now I got following message in ke27:
For actual data, value fields that were already populated before CO-PA valuation cannot be changed in valuation.
1. As a rule, value fields that were filled before CO-PA valuation - be it from SD or by a manual entry of a line item - can only be changed by means of user exits.
(Note that for plan data, CO-PA valuation always has priority over the values planned manually.)
2. The valuation steps in a CO-PA valuation strategy are numbered sequentially. These numbers determine the order in which the steps are carried out within that strategy. As a rule, value fields populated in one step can be used as a basis for calculating values for other value fields in a subsequent step.
Value fields that were populated in a previous step are generally not overwritten by subsequent steps.
The exception to this are steps that use a CO-PA user exit. User exits let you change individual value fields.
3. If you valuate using multiple material cost estimates simultaneously, this means that the values of different cost components within the same cost estimate are aggregated and then entered in one CO-PA value field. However, value fields that already contain data from a previous cost estimate are not overwritten by a later cost estimate. Consequently, you should assign value fields in Customizing so that the values of different cost estimates are entered in different sets of value fields.
4. When condition values are transferred to CO-PA value fields, note that condition types that are assigned to the same value field are added together. This is also the case when the condition types come from different costing sheets within the valuation strategy.
So does it mean we should define separate value fields for PC valuation?
With best regards,
Kamila.

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Dear Gurus,
There is an addition to post above.
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cost component structure
Definition
Number that identifies the structure.
Use
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