Multi Instrument feature removal?

In Logic 8, until now, when I created a multi instrument and add the appropriate aux channel that aux channel would move next to the multi instrument it was associated with. For instance, Battery. I add a channel for my Kick drum and create an auxiliary channel for it. The Auxiliary channel is not next to the Battery instrument channel as of yet. Normally once I route the auxiliary channel to my Battery channel ( or any battery channel for that matter) it would move that auxiliary channel next to my main battery channel. It doesn't do this anymore. Is there a setting where this can be enabled ?

ok .... after all of that as I walk myself through it I see the all so obvious ARRANGE button ... ok . Sometimes its the simple errors that stump me.

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Environment Multi-Instrument = CPU Overload

Hey All,
I've had this persisting problem in the Logic 8 environment regarding the Multi-Instrument object.
The story goes that linking several software instruments to a multi-instrument, no matter what they are, throws all of the processing onto one CPU - quickly destroying the thing... tearing, clipping etc.
It seems so simple yet I have no idea where this comes from.
If I remove the multi-instrument connections and link those exact same instruments playing exactly the same material to the sequencer (like normal), everything goes through perfectly and all of the processors get involved.
It looks as though the multi-instrument object is syphoning and clogging up the midi and possibly the instrument rendering onto ONE processor...
Has anyone ever heard of this?
Thanks!
Trevor

Look at this thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1789402&tstart=15
for a probable explanation.

Anyone have a Multi Instrument setup for the MO6?

I just got a MO6 workstation to integrate into my studio
setup. I was wondering if anyone has this keyboard
(or the MO8) and has a Multi instrument for it setup
in the enviroment. I am trying to not have to input
all the names of all 16 instrument banks. I tried
doing an Google and forum search with no luck.
The thing is impressive sound wise and will be
easier to edit with the free software available.
Only wish Apple would get their support online.
Yamaha did thier end with the remote control
feature. I can put it into Remote control with
one touch and start controlling Logic from the
keyboard. Every button has a dual role, one for
the workstation and one for Logic. Very cool feature.
Thanks in advance, Phil
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Sorry, I only have the original Motif 6 environment,
but I wanted to ask you how you like the MO6?
Have you used the original Motif at all? I'm thinking
about saving up to get a MO8 because of the weighted
keys, and having the ES sounds only helps.
Thanks for posting,
I have not used the original Motif at all but am loving the MO6!
I am primarily a guitar player but since getting this board my inner
keyboard self is coming out. Sound On Sound has a review of
the MO6 in Junes issue. I recieved my copy a week after purchasing
the MO6 and was glad to see their positive review.
I would recommend the MO8 for the tone generator alone and as SOS put it,
you got to love that arpegiator! Everything else to me is icing.
I will have to check out the Motifator web site. That is probably my best
chance at getting the enviroment for the MO6. Thanks again for taking
the time to post.

Multi-Instrument, individual effects

I've create a 16 channel multi-instrument template for one of my software instruments I bought.
I can load and assign up to 16 instruments when using this instrument. ( I know I'm not limited to 16 if I want to layer instruments but I thought I'd keep this question simple).
I've noticed that for every one of those channels that I have a simple reverb and chorus effect I can add.
Instead of those simple reverb and chorus effects, can I assign a AU effect to each one of those 16 channels.
Let's suppose I wanted to use my CamelAudio Phat on channel 2 and Space Designer on channel 7, is that possible in Logic 8 within a multi-instrument setup.
How to do that by either suppling a page number in the Logic Manual or a URL for me to read would be great.

Ahrenshof wrote:
I remember that you recommended this method about a week ago. I wasn't able to understand how how you simultaneously record to different tracks. I have Vdrums going into a 2X2 midisport (keyboard in 2nd port). How exactly do you set up your tracks and edit an EXS24 drumkit so each pad/trigger records to a separate track?
Thanks
yes, I use separate tracks and I use EXS24 a lot for drum programming...
But if you use Vdrum... I never used it, but I suppose that is similar to BFD2 or EZdrummer...
in that case there is no way... you must use MultiOut and Auxiliary outs for separate the tracks... (when I use EZdrummer or BFD2 I prefer to use his internal Mix... but I don't use this kind of plugs for the full drumset... or I bounce the parts as Audio tracks)
The problem is just to know how Logic works with Aux track...
it works by using a second internal buffer at 32bit floating point...
this buffer is locate in the "buffer processing"... and can be set as small,medium,or Large... in any case this buffer add Latency... and when you use Aux + PDC set to ALL this is what happen to All the audio tracks and MIDI incoming events... Latency will be doubled or more (depend which plugs are in the AUX)!
if you dont use PDC set to ALL ALL AUX of the multiOut instruments will be delayed!
If you use "step by step" programmin is not a problem... but for Live recording (I play drums in live mode on my Keyboard) is a disaster!
I'm talking about this live drums recording:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO7xuDExo5I&feature=related
this internal buffer is a great advantage for Dynamic range and Headroom... (you have virtually 32bit floating point X2 resolution = over than 64bit)
but... that can be also a disadvantage...
this buffer does not exist un Cubase or other DAWs... (that's why there is no problem with multiuotput instruments)
this is one of the difference thinking between Logic and other DAWs..
Usually I said "don't force Logic to works as Cubase... because they are different!!"
I hope this helps...
if you have doubt feel free to ask!
G

Multi window feature has gone

I updated the firefox mobile for Android and as a consequence firefox icon was removed from my galaxy note 2 multi window tray. Is there any method to get this feature back? If not can I reinstall a firefox version that supports this feature?
Note: I've already tried Firefox 21.0 BETA version. There is no change.

I've just found out that the developers have removed this because an user reported some icons that appear on screen can block some pixels if application. However, that is ridiculous to remove it. If so , the user must turn multi window feature off. There was no need to remove it.

Setup of a multi-instrument (doesn't work)

Hi guys,
I setup a multi-instrument in order to have individual control over each part of a Stylus RMX. I did it exactly as the Stylus' tutorial says but it doesn't work. If for example I select subchannel 1 in the arrange and play something or have a Midi region, the Midi data is received by every part in the Stylus. If I select subchannel 2 nothing happens. No matter what subchannel I chose, the Midi data displayed by the transport bar in Logic says I´m transmitting in channel 1
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks for any help with this...
Mac Pro Mac OS X (10.4.9)

So you have:
Attached a multi-instrument to your RMX instrument track, and when prompted you "remove" the port setting on the instrument track.
Set the instrument track to Midi Channel: All.
Set the multi instrument port to OFF and channel to ALL.
Click on channels 1-8 on the multi instrument itself to activate them.
Verify that you have all individual 8 tracks of the multi instrument added in your arrange window (and not 8 duplicates of track 1).
And still, each multi instrument track triggers only midi channel 1 in RMX?
Dang.

SharePoint 2013 Multi-tenant Feature Packs

I have not seen any information in regards to multi-tenancy feature packs for SharePoint 2013. Currently it seems, with the new end user licencing, when you install the Enterprise bits you can license a user for either Standard or Enterprise but not
Foundation. In SharePoint 2010 you could use the Enterprise bits then create defined feature packs to give a site collection Foundation, Standard or Enterprise features. Do updated defined feature packs exist for 2013?
There is mention of them here http://www.harbar.net/articles/sp2013mt.aspx
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isn’t changed in any way here, but of course the Features in the product have. Thus the old Feature Pack definitions for SKUs are no longer valid. A new set of feature pack definitions are required encompassing all of the new Features in SharePoint 2013."
But nothing else anywhere on the net, anyone have any ideas?

Hi all,
I thought I'd give an update. I too have worked through official channels and I believe I'm making progress but not a solution unfortunately. When you run Get-SPFeature, you get 409 different features. One thing I noticed, was the features
ending with Stapler that Spence didn't add to his foundation features suggests that adding these could be erroneous. This led me to believe that my ignorance in the above message was bliss and that my idea was not going to fly. Take for example
this:
AutohostedAppLicensing
AutohostedAppLicensingStapling
So is AutohostedAppLicensingStapling a Standard or Enterprise Feature, or something internal that should not be added as it gives bad results? What about the others I don't find?
Then I posed the question - what do the ID's with EDU* in them mean? They don't exist in product info - perhaps it's education specific SKU's? Does that expose customers to use SharePoint for Internet Sites without the SKU as we assume Enterprise
would be the baseline for all 409 features and we work our way back?
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if the 209 features Microsoft sent me as a descriptor for onprem cannot correlate to the 409 Get-SPFeature ID's I have in my bag that render my farm useless?
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the SQL back-end.
Surely noone has done true multitenant... Have they?
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test.... which brings me to my last point. Based on the way Std and Ent can be enabled for on-prem customers on an individual basis and I installed Standard edition on its own VM then enumerated the Get-SPFeature cmdlet, surely I'd see all the features,
not just the standard edition install features. right? If not then I'll build it, enumerate the list and my 2013 Feature pack is sorted.
The biggest fear I have on this is going it alone and if I stuff up, having a non-compliant licensing solution for every user on the system and MS banging down my door for noncompliance on something they didn't provide guidance on in the first place.
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Need help with the new Multi-cam feature in CC

Hi,
I'm trying to use the Multi-cam feature in CC and have a few questions, so would be happy with help/advice for any of the issues below. The platform is Windows 7 Pro 64bit.
The first question is what am I doing wrong? This question relates to the fact I'm trying to use Multi-cam and encountering a lot of frustrating glitches, as sometimes it seems to work and at others it doesn't.
The video I'm trying to edit comes from a dance show so I created a sequence called Act 1. I then highlighted the six clips of Act 1 with Cam 01 at the top, as I wanted the audio from this clip and made a Multi-cam feature using the audio synch. I dragged it to the sequence, set the prog window to Multi-cam and was amazed at how well it had synchronised all clips, as I could see all six clips with great audio synch from Cam 01. So far so good and after thinking how brilliant it was, things went downhill from there
I started by using ripple delete to drag to the start of Act one and then tried editing with Multi-cam. That's where I encountered the first problem, as sometimes it seemed to toggle between cams but didn't put edit points in and the selected cam had a yellow border and not a red one. At other times it inserted edit points when I changed cams and the selected cam has a red border. I can't work out what I'm doing, or not doing for this to happen. Can anyone help please?
The second question is how do I cut audio and video at exactly the same point, as I want to edit out pauses in between the different elements of the actual dance show. When I use the razor tool in Multi-cam it only cuts the video. I tried highliting audio and video using shift, but to no effect. If it matters audio and video are shown as linked when I right click. I thought I might get it to work if I revealed all original clips within the MC nest using the technique shown in "Adobe Learn." This was Ctrl double click, but it resulted in the third problem.
When I tried Ctrl double click I ended up with only Cam 02 showing in the V2 track and after some frustrating attempts at resolving this issue I decided to start all over again. I deleted the PP project and created a new one, importing everything again. I followed exactly the same procedure as I originally did to create a Multi-cam nest, but when I dragged it to the new sequence I saw Cam 02 in V2 of the sequence, which is the same as it was before I deleted the original project. Premiere Pro seems to have annoyingly remembered the actions that went wrong, so please can anyone tell me how to tell Premiere Pro not to do this?
Thanks if anyone can help me on any of the issues.

In Premiere Pro, multi-camera is accomplished by nesting a sequence. There's a new, more automated way of doing this in CC. View the steps here: http://blogs.adobe.com/premierepro/2013/04/a-quick-walkthrough-of-editing-a-multi-camera-s equence-with-clips-synchronized-by-audio.html
HOWEVER, you must be warned that multi-cam in CC is currently broken. A patch is in the works, but until it is released you should not use multi-cam in CC.

How to do multi-instrument with EXS instrument in Logic Express

Hello Logic Express Users,
I wonder if someone can help me. I can set up multi-instruments with Battery 2, and Kontakt 2, but I am battling to set up a multi-instrument when I am using the EXS with Logic Express. How do I assign the outputs to different outputs so that I can hear different instruments through different aux channels.
Or is it only possible with the EXS editor that comes with Logic Pro? Because if it is then it is weird why they make the EXS with Logic express a multi-instrument.
Thanks in advance for any help.

If you want to save an instrument patch together with plugins and so on, you should save it as a channel strip.
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These settings will show up in the channel strip menu, and the media browser too.

Using kontakt multi instrument in logic express

hi folks,
i am trying to load several instruments into a multi instrument in kontakt2. the documentation says that it is possible to use this to trigger each instrument from a different midi channel. i seem not being able to figure this out. the book "logic6 power" even mentions that you can assign regions to specific midi channels but it does not explain how.
basically, i would like to be able to switch between pre-loaded sounds within one track instead of having all of them sound like stacked.
can anybody help?

not quite sure what exactly did the trick, generating the multiinstrument in the environment and cabling it to the audio fader strip thingy in the mixer... but it works now. i guess it was crucial to come to the conclusion that a different midi channel on the masterkeyboard has to be chosen in order to get a different instrument to sound rather than trying to find a way to set the instrument somewhere in the track or in the region.
i guess, simply by talking about it the soution started the dawn on the horizon...
thanks!

Logic 7.2 and Stylus RMX question, related to multi instrument

Hey guys,
Hope everyone is doing well.
I have a very specific question here regarding multi-instrument RMXs. We've got RMX as an 8 channel multi in our autoload. Use it all the time. The multi is set up and has been working great for quite some time. The plug-in is instantiated on Instrument 1, and then there are 8 subsequent mutli-instrument midi tracks below Instrument 1. I'm being super descriptive here, so I apologize if it's long winded.
Now we also have RMX channels 2-8 (b-h) routing to stereo sub outs in Logics track mixer. RMX 2(b) routes to sub-out 3-4 and so on down the line. Anything routing to (a) in RMX goes out 1-2 (main). We only have RMX channel 1(a) going to the main out.
Okay, so the question.
How would one create and edit a volume performance on the midi track RMX 2(b)? If you edit the "midi volume", which is normaled at 100, of any of the midi tracks under the RMX multi, all they end up doing is automating the volume of the Instrument 1 track that the RMX multi is on. Is there a way to make the editing of volume on RMX 2-8 (b-h) correspond to the automation of the volumes on their respective sub outs? This is a tricky one for us here.
I know that you can automate the volume sliders for each RMX channel within the actual RMX plugin interface, but it would be so much nicer to be able to do this within Logic. I'm a bit surprised that the editing of volume on 2-8 only edits the volume of the Instrument track they correspond to.
Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance.
The Earle-Tones Music Crew

Steve,
Thank you for your post. We actually have our autoload set up with an RMX multi the way that you described. I know it's a bit difficult without seeing it in front of you, but I'll try and describe it again.
So take the set up that you have described, with RMX instantiated on Instrument 1. RMX multi Channel 1(A) going to the main 1-2. RMX multi Channel 2(B) through Channel 8(H) going to aux returns.
Now here's the issue. I can automate the volume sliders within the plug-in RMX via midi-learn. But now select RMX multi 2(B) within Logic's Arrange. On the left you will see a Midi Volume slider corresponding to RMX Channel 2(B) that you've just selected. It's normaled at 100. Slide that Midi fader down to 50. Now select Instrument 1 (the Instrument channel that the plug-in RMX multi is instantiated on). It has affected the main Instrument 1 channel volume. I don't want this. I want RMX multi channel 2(B)'s midi volume fader within Logic's arrange to affect it's corresponding AUX.
This may seem nit picky, but if you want to draw in volume performances via the hyper edit / matrix edit on the different RMX multi channels (B-H), it's fruitless at the moment because each of those 7 midi faders in Logic's arrange all control the same fader: Instrument 1 that RMX is instantiated on.
I know that midi learn within RMX is an option, but I am just wondering if there is a way to get those multi channel midi faders to correspond to the aux faders.
Thanks again guys!
ETMi

How Do I Import Multi Instrument/Environment Page From Lp7 Into LP8?

I've just started using LP Studio and I'm trying to use the multi instrument setup that I have in LP7 but I cannot find a way to import or copy them into 8.
Any idea/help will be greatly appreciated.

You do it the same way you did in L7.
In the Environment choose Options > Import Environment > Layer and it will ask you to lead it to the L7 project/song you wish to import it from and choose the layer.

Best way to add delay line and arpeggiator to multi instrument?

I am using logic sequencer to drive external hardware, and have been making use of the arpeggiator and delay line objects in the environment.
Apparently they have to be set up in loop cabling? Where the delay line runs into the multi instrument, which then in turn runs back into the delay line?
If I set it up just like this, the delayed note is then fed back into the signal and feeds the delay line again so that an infinite delay is created, even if I have repeat only set to 1.
I put the transformer in and if the note is of the original velocity it is sent to the delay line, all other velocities are brought down by -1 and those notes are sent just to drive the external equipment, not back into the delay line itself.
My question is is this the simplest way for this configuration? Or is there a simpler way that I'm overlooking? If there is a simpler way my guess is it probably lies in the parameters of the transformer because I am somewhat unfamiliar with it.
Thank you for your help.

Hey thanks. I mean, this way actually works, which I am an enthusiastic about, because it took me awhile to figure it out, I am just thinking there might be a simpler way.
Maybe I can try to explain a little bit more detail. I have an external sampler that can receive on 8 individual midi channels. Let's say I have a bass line sample on Midi Channel 1, and a Snare sample on Midi Channel 2, and I want to use the delay line to delay only the snare sample.
I run the delay line into Instrument Track 2 in the environment. At this point, there would be no delay. Not until I run the multi instrument back into the delay line. (I suppose this makes sense, because the multi instrument would need to be in the signal path). Then, however, the note that is delayed is fed back into the delay line as well (the delayed note of the snare), and it in turn feeds the delay line again, and an infinite loop is created.
If I put a transformer in there so that top condition is true the note at the original velocity is fed into the delay line (The original snare hit on beat 2 let's say). Then the delay line subtracts from the velocity by -1 or any number. (In reality this may or may not effect the sound, because the sound in the sampler may or may not respond to velocity. I can always have it play 'full on' whatever the velocity of the midi note.)
Then all notes with subtracted velocities bypass the delay line, which should be the case, because they are never meant to be fed back into the delay line.
That is a lot, I know, but I wanted to be as detailed as possible. I mean, it actually works! I am kind of surprised about that. I don't know if there is an easier way to achieve the same results. I am working with limited hardware equipment, and that seems to be the best way for me to set things up as far as synchronization issues are concerned. Might be an unusual set up, but it seems to give me the best results right now.
Thanks for your help! All input is appreciated!

Multi-Instrument + Multi-Thread problem found

Right.....I have done a lot of research on why logic was not multi-threading correctly and have narrowed it down to one problem...using Kontakt as a multi instrument.
My Mac is a 2 x 2.26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon. This means that it is capable of distributing work loads over the multiple cores of the CPU to prevent core audio overloads from happening.
If I run any plug ins in stereo or mono mode, the CPU acts as it should; I will load up a program, add processing and when the load is becoming a strain for the CPU, I use a bus send and work on that, then the workload is redistributed across more of the cores by logic, allowing me to continue working.
However, I need to use Kontakt as a multi instrument. I usually have 3 instances of Kontakt open and on each one of these, I usually have a minimum of 10 outputs being sent to the aux channels of logic. Therefore using Kontakt as a stereo instrument is not an option, as I would have to open around 30 instances!
Here is the problem; say for example, in Kontakt I send a kick drum out of Kontakt into AUX 3 + 4. The AUX channel in logic will being to show output. I can now EQ this single kick drum seperate from any other sound in logic.
If I began to add processor heavy plug ins to this AUX output, rather than share the workload across the cores as it should and does with stereo instruments, logic now only uses a single core and it will core audio overload very quickly.
As I said, this only happens when I set up Kontakt as a multi instrument. The main problem is when I begin to have many different outputs from my 3 instances of Kontakt, as by this stage, many different sounds will have processing. All 3 multi instruments and their processing are then controlled by the single processor and the other 7 are almost inactive! It therefore becomes impossible to use Kontakt and I have to switch to stereo instances. This happens for all multi-instruments not just Kontakt.
I have just purchased Kontakt 4, I am upgrading to OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard) and am updating Logic to v9.1. (From v9.0) Will this help at all? Is there an answer to this problem or will I just have to open 30 stereo and mono instances of Kontakt to continue working!
I have included a link to a ZIP file with two photos of the problem. In the photo named MASSIVE. I have one instance of massive running as a stereo instrument. It is sent to a BUS where I applied the WAVES L316 Limiter. I did this multiple times and if you can see on the system performance (Top right) Logic is sharing the workload over the processors as it should.
In the second picture named KONTAKT MULTI - I have done the same thing, but I have opened Kontakt as a multi instrument, sent a kick drum to AUX 2 and then forwarded this to a send where I applied the same WAVES L316. You can see on the system performance meter (Top Right) that Logic now does not re-distribute the workload, it is using one core and anymore plug ins applied to the AUX or bus channels relating to Kontakt will now make it core audio over load, even though now I am using far less processing.
PHOTOS: http://www.sendspace.com/file/og8a94

Ditto
Using Pro 8 Studio, I had this problem after installing Snow Leopard.
Invested £159 in Pro 9 update, same problem.
This has stopped most of my work since my external WK4 sounds are superior to the included software sounds.
As suggested, will now report since since it obviously seems to be a general problem.

Multi instrument help?

Does any one have or know how to setup my enviroment so i can use my JV1080 and Proteus 2000 at the same time, because at the moment i can only use one, as all my tracks will only play midi1 or midi2 , not together.
Or if anyone has a enviroment already setup like this can they send it to me thanks

I guess we would need to know if you are new to Logic, MIDI, or both...you should have each on their own ports on the MIDI interface if you want to access them each in multichannel modes. If I remember correctly P2K has 32 channels-so you'd need 3 ports if you really needed to access 32 from proteus and 16 from JV. Roland is weird-you should just leave that in performance mode when working with it as a multi instrument. Most likely with proteus, too. So, you'd want each on their own port-then you create a Multi instrument in the environment for each instrument (2 for the Porteus if it supports 32 channels. Then you'd simply assign the port in the paramater field on the left for the each selected device. Ensure the Channels you want ot access do not have a strike through them. In the arrange these will become available as MIDI instrument tracks including each channel you've enabled. Then you simply select the channel you wish to work with. If you use these modules sparingly you may want to check in to using then as Audio Instrument Inserts. Setting Up Logic is really akward to new users. Before you do all this, ensure that everything in your AudioMIDI setup is correct.

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