Multiple Databases in one Business Area?

Can I put multiple databases into the same Business Area?
The crux of the problem is as follows: I am migrating data from one database to another. There will be a period of dual running, whilst the products are migrated.
I want to be able to write reports that compare the data between the two databases, and show me the discrepancies.
Oh one of the databases is not Oracle, so using a db link is not an option.
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Multiple databases in one file: a small snafu

Hello everyone,
Opening multiple databases in a single file is an administrative convenience. It is well explained in the manual (see db/docs/ref/am/opensub.html). Normally, there is little difference between databases in their own physical files or grouped together in a single physical file. There is one small sentence in the manual that says the following:
(begin fragment)
However, since multiple databases in a file exist in a single physical file, opening two databases in the same file simultaneously requires locking be enabled unless all of the handles are read-only. As the locks for the two databases can only conflict during page allocation, this additional locking is unlikely to affect performance.
(end fragment).
I didn't pay attention to it, except the "unlikely to affect performance" part which told me that I wasn't to worry about it. The sun was shining. Life was good.
And I was wrong. It was one of those "epic bug quests" I had to embark on, only to realise that it may not be a BDB bug, but my carelessnes. Nevertheless, I'm left with an uneasy feeling which I would like to explain here.
Consider BDB configured as a concurrent data store.
There are 2 threads. The first thread has the following pseudocode:
cursor1 = db1->cursor(...)
while(cursor1->c_get(... DB_NEXT...))
// 1
cursor2 = db2->cursor(...)
while(cursor2->c_get(... DB_NEXT...))
The second thread does only the following:
db3->put(...)
db1, db2 and db3 are all distinct databases. All cursors are read-only (the cursor implicitly used in db3->put is of course a write cursor).
While the first thread is running, the second thread executes db3->put(...) at "//1".
Question: what happens?
Answer 1: if db1, db2 and db3 reside in different physical files, nothing special happens. Everything proceeds as it should.
Answer 2: if db1, db2 and db3 reside in the same physical file, both threads block "sometimes".
The "sometimes" used here means "when the put operation in thread 2 needs to allocate a new page".
Reading the BDB source code is extraordinarily difficult (which says more about my limitations than about the clarity of the code) but here is what happens, as far as I could determine:
(thread 1) cursor1 needs and acquires a read lock on db1
(thread 2) db3->put needs a write lock on db2 to allocate a new page. Since db2 is in the same physical file as db1 and thread 1 already has a read lock, thread 2 waits until the read lock is released. Thread 2 blocks.
(thread 1) cursor 2 needs a read lock on db3. For some reason, BDB detects that the another thread is waiting for a write lock on the physical file, and thread 1 blocks.
Both threads block waiting on each other to complete.
I suppose the system is the way it is to avoid starvation, but there you have it: be careful when you're lumping together multiple databases in one file!
Anyone who can clarify or confirm this is welcome.
Vincent

I had experienced a similar problem. I run multiple process. Each one of them starts a transaction that does db->put and db->pget to its own database (which also has a secondary index). When each database is in a separate physical file there is no problem but when I put all databases in a single file the processes start to dead-lock.
The following combination of options solved the deadlocking problem:
- use serializable isolation level instead of snapshot, i.e. do not pass DB_TXN_SNAPSHOT to txn_begin
- do not pass the DB_NO_WAIT option to txn_begin
- use Btree instead of a Hash
Hope that helps.

FS 10N only getting one business area report

Hai all,
We r using 4.7 version while using t.code fs10n we r getting only one business area report, we r having six business ares
can any one suggest steps to get all other business area reports
regards
Siraj
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Hi,
If u use Txn FS10N u can include all the business area in one report. i think there's a button called "multiple selection" beside business area field. just click the button and fill in all the related business area which u wanna see in "select single value"'s tab.
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TQ
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Nazrul

How to change the database in a business area

Hello All,
I am trying to figure out a way to change the database that a business area connects to. When I created the business area I selected to look at tables from the default database. Now I need to change that setting to connect to a different database. The tables are exactly the same on both databases. I just need to change the database that the business area looks at.
Is there a simple way of accomplishing this? I want to avoid having to recreate the business area.
Thank you very much in advanced for your help with this matter.
Del Benavides.

Hi,
Select all your folders in Disco Administrator,ALT+ENTER to go to properties, then change the database from the default database to the remote database.
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I am going to transfer my Asset from One Business area to another business area. So, I allready created a new asset and transfer through TCODE-ABUMN. But system gives me this error
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Transaction type 320 belongs to a transaction type group, which can only be used to post to assets to which posting has already been performed. However, no postings have been made to this asset.
Procedure
Use a transaction type from a transaction type group, which can be used for the first acquisition to an asset.
can any one please tell me how I transfer my Asset from one business area to another Business area?

Hi
First make sure in your company code global setting in the OBY6 for company code wise ..Iin this screen Indicator: Business area financial statements required if it is ticket
Please don't change business area for old asset . because it will effect the Business area balance sheet. So create new asset and change business area at cost center level
Finally transfer the balance from old asset to new assets in the ABUMN
OR
IF you want solution as per your issue ..Go to SPRO-> Financial Accounting-> Asset Accounting->Transactions-> Specify Default Transaction Types
Here enter Default Transaction Types 300 Transfer of retir. old assets data from cap.asset
in the filed of Transfer Between Areas
I hope it will helps you
Thanks and Regards
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Two fact tables in one business area

Hi,
Would there be problem if two fact tables, one flat, one with hierarchy, in one business area. Both fact tables are joined to same set of dimension tables except one: region_1 to fact_1, region_2 to fact_2. The consistency check is fine. But I get error in Answers. I don't have the exact error with me, but it is complains about fact_1 is not linked region_2.
Any suggestions ?
Thanks.

Thank you, Stijn, Ced for your kind reply.
I did not explain it clearly.
The fact_1 (flat) table has data in all levels (detailed and aggregated). For example, it has % sales to planned from city, state to national (we were not provided with numberator and demoninator to aggregate the detailed data). The fact_2 table has only city level data and have a dimension region_2 with city, state and national hierarchy. For data in Fact_1 table, we simply want to show them in reports. For data in Fact_2 table, reports can drill-down.
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Transfer of a Asset from one Business Area to Another Business area

Hi Gurus,
I am working for a Indian client in ECC6.
presently we are using "ABUMN" TCODE to transfer asset from one business area to another business area. But, in this process we have to create a new asset or transfer to a existing asset with new business area. So, we are retiring the Old asset transferred and the total value and accm. dep is transferred to the new asset.
Now, my client doesnot want to create a new asset, he wants the old asset no. to be retained and keep track of the transfers from one business area to another.
In Time Dependent intervals, i am unable to change Business are. it is only allowing to keep track of changes in Cost centre. Likewise i want for Business area.
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regards
Jaya

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we need to maintain the screen layout rules for the asset master data for the above issue.
Path: SPRO, Financial Accounting, Asset Accounting, Master Data, Screen Layout, Define Screen Layout for Asset Master Data.
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Using more than one Business area in the same report

Hi,
Is it possible / recommended to use more than one business area in the same report.
For example, I have a sales (business area sales) report on one tab and a rebates(rebates business area) report on a second tab.
Thanks

Hello
Possible: yes
Recommended: no
This can certainly be done and Discoverer will not prevent you from having reports that use different business areas as you describe.
However, for management and security purposes it does not make for ease of use. As you know a user has the ability to share a workbook with another user. If they do this then ALL reports within that workbook are shared. If the receiving user does not have access to one or more of the business areas then some reports will run and some will not. This can be very confusing to an end user and a possible nightmare to administer.
My recommendation would be to have a workbook per business area and not mix.
If there is more than one business area per functional area, for example sales and returns, then so long as the users have access to both business areas then you could use a common workbook.
Personally I would not even do this, so my strongest advice would be to have all reports in a workbook written against the same business area.
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One business area data is not reflecting queries very urgent

we had two business areas under one chart of account .while executing the query the fig of one business area not reflecting in queries what could be the reason.
please i will assign full points give me best solution.Very urgent
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sampath

my friend kalpana,
data was ther.i will tell u clear picture
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and i have loaded leading ledger data to ofigl_o10 and ofigl_c10
when i am executing the query i cannot see the fig from one of our business area ACC.Only CRIS B AREA FIG COMING.
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Can i create report using more than one Business Area ?

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Vikram

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Can one business area be assigned to several company codes? how to do it?

Can one business area be assigned to several company codes?
what are the configurations?
thanks

Dear Humility,
If, I am not wrong, Business Area is assigned to Company Code via Finance (i.e. NO Direct assignment, but can be used across company code). You can assign a business area to an org. object through the account assignment tab.
Business areas are generally company-code independent. You can post to them from any company code. The Business area field shows up as an additional account assignment when posting to an account as long as the field is turned on in configuration. The field can be made a required entry during posting.
If certain company codes are not active in specific business areas, you can use a validation to prevent postings to this business area from the company codes specified.
Important Transactions, related to Business Area Configuration:
OX03     Create Business Area
OMJ7     assign Business Area to Plant / Valuation Area and Division
OVF2     Org Unit: Sales Area - Business Area Determination rule
OVF0     Org Unit: Business Area Determination rule
OVF1     Sales Area - Business Area Determination rule Slsorg/DstCh
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[Business Area|http://www.sap-img.com/zf003.htm]
[SAP Business Area|http://www.saptechies.com/configure-the-sap-business-area/]
[Validation of Business Area for Company Code|Re: Validation of Business Area for Company code;

Blocking of one business area

Hi experts,
My user wants to block transactions in one business area.This company code has four business areas.Out of that ,one business area to be blocked.
Please advise.
Regards,
Samar

Hi,
Create validation at line item level.
goto T.Code: OB28 PRESS ENTER
CO.CODE:1000
CALLPOINT: 2 (Line item level)
select the above line item and double click
click on create"validation" buttion on top
validation name: BA
DISCRIPTION : Business area
then click on create step -icon
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then click on prerequisite
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double click on company code
then click on" =" SYMBOL
Then click on constant tab
enter the company code no as 1000(give appropirate number)
Step2:
Then click on check below rerequisite
again search for business area at table fields
then double click
then select" =" symbol
then click on constant
enter the business area as 1000
Step3:
then click on message below the prerequisite
Message type :E
MESSAGE NUMBER : 004
PRESS ENTER AND SAVE
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Prerequisite
BKPF-BUKRS = '1000'
Check
BKPF-BUKRS = '1000'
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Production order variance and purchase variance go to one business area.

Hi Experts,
I have a issue while Purchase order we have ordered 3000 qty and while goods receipt we posted 300000 qty and same was issed for prodction order instead of 3000 and got variance. Then afterward purchase order qty was rectified with correct qty then purchase variance happed. The production order variance is getting offsetting by purchase order variance and no effect on gross profit.
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