Multiple Mac Backup

I've just bought an iMac with a 500Gb SSD. That's not much storage, so I need to archive stuff and remove it from the internal drive on a regular basis. I also still have my macbook pro which I'll use when I need to be portable and my wife will use as her main computer. Can anyone suggest to me an elegant backup solution for backing up both machines and also ensuring security against HD failure. I was wondering whether I could network the machines and have a common backup and backup backup if you see what I mean.
I think also that the backup needs to be separate from the Archive thing. I do music projects and when a project is finished I'll want to remove it to the archive. Obviously the Archive needs a backup solution too.
I didn't get a fusion drive, because I was told that this could create problems with audio processing.

You are correct that the backup and archive must be on separate drives.
You are also correct that the archive should be backed up.
Rather then doing a backup of a backup, what I choice to do instead is to do multiple backups using different software for each.
Allan

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    Bkat wrote:
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