MuVo N200 random pops and crack

Hei!
Just want to report that the old and known problem with a lot of MuVo N200 units, the random popping sounds, is not completely removed by the new firmware .2.0.! The total amount of these ugly noises decreased, thats right, but a few of them are still there. Have double-checked this by rewinding and re-listening (then the noise is gone), and also back-copying to the harddisk and re-listening from there (the noises are also gone).
Does this really ugly firmware-bug ever get properly fixed?

I'm curious as to what exactly are the circumstances that lead to crackling, because it has never been a problem with my unit. Maybe it's just the way I use it, or the luck of the draw.
My guess is that there's many possible causes for the crackling, and the Creative team is only finding (and fixing) the ones they know about?
Not trying to be all Creative-loving on anyone, but just trying to figure out what's the difference between my experiences and those of others.

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I hope you understand how Important this is for me and I hope I resolve the problem as soon as possible.
P.S
I would like to state that I am well aware of the grammar mistakes I have made in the text below and I would like to ask for your apologies as I am not a native English language speaker.

hi i just like to say i had a similar fault though i would be surprised if it causing yours,but you never know,my fault was my laptop lid, [9 months old] it contains the mic ,and when the lid was in a certain angle crackles could be heard worse when i had my external sound card in, it was a faulty membrane [ lid to body] easily missed by engineer because it was the same angle all the time it happened,good luck, PS you English is very good
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