My computer empty in Application Builder

I just upgraded to LV 8.5 and activated the Application Builder for the first time. I have only one (large) VI to create the executable from. When in the Project Explorer/Build Specifications/Source files catagory, "My Computer" is greyed out. Therefore I cannot navigate anywhere to select a startup VI.
At first, the folder where I keep all my VIs are on the server/network drive for safe keeping. As a test, I copied the entire folder to my local hard drive and started over building the project with the same results.
Ideas anyone?
Thanks,
Gary

Thanks! That helped. I hadn't added the VI to the project. Doing that, I was able to build the executable and the installer.

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