NAS 4 Time Capsule
Should I buy a NAS, since I already own a Time Machine?
I have a Mac Mini, used as a player for my Home Cinema, a MacBook that I use everyday and a Time Capsule 500GB that I use for backing up my MacBook
I would like to have a HDD for the movies collection, iPhoto and iTunes library, that can be used from my network (but wireless from MacBook and iPhone).
What should I buy?
-NAS that I connect to Time Capsule by Gigabit LAN
-external HDD that i connect to: Mac Mini(fire wire) or Time Capsule(USB)
If I buy an external HDD, should I connect it with Mac Mini(firewire), or with Time Capsule(USB)?
If I will connect it with Time Capsule(USB), I'll get slow speed connection, but it will be visible in the entire network
If I will connect it with Mac Mini(FW), I'll get faster connection, but it can be visible only by the Mac Mini...right?
Or not? It's could be visible as an external drive from the Mac Book also, and will appear mounted on the Desktop?
Kevo82 wrote:
Thank you very much for the answer
So, as a conclusion, you suggest me to do the same and hook up an external HDD with my Mini, trough FW.
it's an option that i found to be very effective and speedy.
i have another (test) library on a USB drive hanging off my TC. my MBP connects to the TC via gigabit ethernet but i found the FW 800 connection by far superior.
I know that with HomeSharing from iTunes, I will use 2 different playlists (one on MacBook, and one on Mini) right?
again, this is one option - they also could be identical.
I would like to have the music on the external HDD, and when I add a song to a playlist on the MacBook, to happen the same thing on Mini's playlist. I don't want to add it manually to the Mini playlist.
But I am more concerned about transferring files from the external HDD, to my MacBook.
I mean, when I download a movie with my MacBook, I would like to be downloaded directly on the external HDD, and then, accessible from the MacBook
you will find this read interesting.
alternatively, there are 3rd party apps that can help. to name a few:
Syncopation
TuneRanger
SuperSync
So, the external HDD connected to the Mini, will ALSO appear on my MacBook's desktop?
you'd have to mount it on the MB's desktop, but sure. you can even automate the mounting. simply add the drive to the startup items of your MB and, if mini and HD are running, the drive will mount on your MB's desktop @ startup.
JGG
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Time capsule -connecting, backup, file transfer
hello,
i am very new to time capsule, and have the following issue i would like to get solved/understand:
1. when i want to access my time capsule disk through the normal finder window, clicking on the time capsule icon to the left, it appears that finder tries to connect, but then i get a connection failed message. only when i access it through go>connect to server> etc, it appears as a disk. Now I would like to know, if the connection established that way (through connect to server) is actually connecting via internet, instead of using the direct wireless connection to the disk (I'm sitting right next to my time capsule)?? In the case it is using the internet to connect my time capsule, for sure my connection to the disk should speed up, as soon as i get the connection through wireless, isn't it? For the rest everything works just fine, internet connection wirelessly with airport, etc.
2. I am transferring data from an old backup disk to my new timecapsule. i have this old disk connected to mac my through usb, and drag n dropped the files on the time capsule. the copying process is fairly slow, but still faster than connecting the old disk directly to the usb slot on time capsule. Is there any way of directly transferring data through the usb slots from my old disk to my time capsule? it would be so much faster.....
thanks in advance...Welcome to Apple Discussions!
majajaja wrote:
hello,
i am very new to time capsule, and have the following issue i would like to get solved/understand:
1. when i want to access my time capsule disk through the normal finder window, clicking on the time capsule icon to the left, it appears that finder tries to connect, but then i get a connection failed message. only when i access it through go>connect to server> etc, it appears as a disk. Now I would like to know, if the connection established that way (through connect to server) is actually connecting via internet, instead of using the direct wireless connection to the disk (I'm sitting right next to my time capsule)?? In the case it is using the internet to connect my time capsule, for sure my connection to the disk should speed up, as soon as i get the connection through wireless, isn't it? For the rest everything works just fine, internet connection wirelessly with airport, etc.
Hmmm... my Time Capsule folder resides in my Shared Folder under Finder. It mounts a few seconds after I click on it. I've never had to +connect to server+.
2. I am transferring data from an old backup disk to my new timecapsule. i have this old disk connected to mac my through usb, and drag n dropped the files on the time capsule. the copying process is fairly slow, but still faster than connecting the old disk directly to the usb slot on time capsule. Is there any way of directly transferring data through the usb slots from my old disk to my time capsule? it would be so much faster.....
Unfortunately, you will not be able to continue to use this Time Machine backup in this manner. TM utilizes a sparsebundle when backing up to a NAS (Time Capsule) which is very different from a backup into a folder structure if the HDD is connected directly to your Mac (USB HDD). Your TM back ups will still be available on your USB HDD, but you are better off starting an entirely new backup on TC.
Good luck! -
THE SHORTER STORY
My goal is to successfully use my existing Time Capsule (TC) with a new and more powerful wireless router. I need a new and more powerful wireless router in order to reach a distant Denon a/v receiver that is physically located in a master bedroom some 50 feet away from my modem. I need to provide this Denon a/v receiver with an Internet connection so that it can obtain its firmware updates and I need to connect this Denon a/v receiver to my network in order to use its AirPlay feature. I believe l still need the TC's Network Attached Storage (NAS) features because I am not sure if the new wireless router will provide me with the NAS like features / capabilities I need to share files between my two Apple laptops with OS X 10.8.2. And I know that I absolutely need my TC's seamless integration with Apple's Time Machine (TM) application in order to continue to make effortless backups of my two Apple laptops. To my knowledge nothing works with TM like Apple's TC. I also need the hard disk storage space built into the TC.
I cannot use a long wired Ethernet cable connection in this apartment and I cannot use power-line adapters. I have read that wireless range extenders and repeaters are difficult to successfully set-up and that they will reduce data speeds, especially so when incorrectly set-up. I cannot relocate my modem and/or primary base station wireless router.
In short, I want to use my TC with my new and more powerful wireless router. I need to stop using the TC to connect to the modem. However, I still need the TC for seamless TM backups. I also need to use the TC's built in hard drive for storage. And I may still need the TC's NAS capabilities to share files wirelessly between laptops because I am assuming the new wireless router will not provide NAS capabilities for OS X 10.8.2 (products like this/non-Apple products rarely seem to work with OS X 10.8.2/Macs to provide NAS features and capabilities). Finally, I want to continue to use my Apple laptop and AirPlay to wirelessly access and play my iTunes music collection stored on the TC's hard drive. I also want to continue to use my Apple laptop, AirPlay and Apple TV to wirelessly watch movies and TV shows stored on the additional external hard drive connected to the TC via USB. Can someone please advise on how to set-up my new Asus wireless router with my existing TC in such a way to accomplish all of this?
What is the best configuration or set-up to accomplish my above goals?
Thank you in advance for your assistance!!!
THE FULL STORY
I live in an apartment building where my existing Time Capsule (TC) is located in my living room and serves many purposes. Specially, my TC is at least all of the following:
(1) Wi-Fi router connected to Comcast Internet service via Motorola SB6121 cable modem - currently the TC is the Wi-Fi base station that connects to the modem and has the gateway address to the Internet. The TC now provides the DHCP service for the Wi-Fi network.
(2) Wireless router providing Internet and Wi-Fi network access to several Wi-Fi clients - two Apple laptop computers, an iPod touch, an iPad and an iPhone all connect wirelessly to the Internet via the TC.
(3) Wired Ethernet router providing Internet and Wi-Fi network access to three different devices - a Panasonic TV, LG Blu-Ray player and an Apple TV each use one of the three LAN ports on the back of the TC to gain access to the Internet.
(4) Primary base station in my attempt to extend my wireless network to a distant (located far away) Denon a/v receiver requiring a wired Ethernet connection - In addition to the TC, which is my primary base station, I am also using a second extended Wi-Fi base station (a Netgear branded product) to wirelessly extend my WiFi network to a Denon receiver located in the master bedroom and requiring a wired Ethernet connection. I cannot use a wired Ethernet connection to continuously travel from the living room to the master bedroom. The distance is too great as I cannot effectively hide the Ethernet cable in this apartment.
(5) Time Machine (TM) backup facilitator - I use my TC to wirelessly back-up two Apple laptops using Apple's Time Machine (TM) application. However, I ran out of storage space on my TC and therefore added external storage to it. Specifically, I added an external hard drive to my TC via the USB port on the back of the TC. I now use this added external hard drive connected to the TC via USB as the destination storage drive for my TM back-ups. I have partitioned the added external hard drive, and each of the several partitions all have enough storage space (e.g., each of the two partitions used by TM are sized at three times the hard drive space of each laptop, etc.). Everything works flawlessly.
(6) Network Attached Storage (NAS) - In addition to using the TC's Network Attached Storage (NAS) capabilities to wirelessly back-up two Apple laptops via TM, I also store other additional files on both (A) the hard drive built into the TC and (B) the additional external hard drive connected to the TC via USB (there are additional separate partitions on this drive for these other additional and non-TM backup files).
I use the TC's NAS feature with my Apple laptop and AirPlay to wirelessly access and play my iTunes music collection stored on the TC's hard drive. I also use my Apple laptop, AirPlay and Apple TV to wirelessly watch movies and TV shows stored on the additional external hard drive connected to the TC via USB. Again, everything works wirelessly and flawlessly. (Note: the Apple TV is connected to the network via Ethernet and a LAN port on the back of the TC).
The issue I am having is when I try to listen to music via Apple's AirPlay in the master bedroom. This master bedroom is located at a distance of two rooms away from the TC's current location in the living room, which is a distance of about 50 feet. This apartment has a long rectangular floor plan where each room is connected to the next in a straight line. In order to use AirPlay in the master bedroom I am using a second extended Wi-Fi base station (a Netgear branded product) to wirelessly extend my WiFi network to a Denon receiver located in the master bedroom and requiring a wired Ethernet connection. This additional base station connects wirelessly to the WiFi network provided by my TC and then gives my Denon receiver the wired Ethernet connection it needs to use AirPlay. I have tried moving my iTunes music directly onto my laptop's hard drive, and then I used AirPlay on this same laptop to connect to the Denon receiver. I always get a successful connection and the song plays, but the problem is that the connection inevitably drops.
I live in an apartment building and all of the many wireless routers in this building create a great deal of WiFi interference on both the 2.4 GHz and 5GHz bands. I have tried connecting the Netgear product to each the 2.4 and 5 GHz bands, but neither band can successfully maintain a wireless connection between the TC and the Netgear product. I also attempted to maintain a wireless connection to an iPod touch using the 2.4 GHz band and AirPlay on this iPod touch to play music on the Denon receiver. Again, I was able to establish a connection and successfully play music, but after a few minutes the connection dropped and the music stopped playing. I therefore have concluded that I have a poor wireless connection in the master bedroom. I can establish a connection, but it is intermittent with frequent drops. I have verified this with both laptops by working in the master bedroom for an entire day on both laptops. The Internet connection in this master bedroom proved to drop out frequently - about once an hour with the laptops. The wireless connection and the frequency of its dropout are far worse with the iPod touch and an iPhone.
I cannot relocate the TC. Also, this is an apartment and I therefore cannot extend the range of my network with Ethernet cable (I cannot drill through walls/ceilings, etc.). It is an old building with antiquated wiring and power-line adapters are not likely to function properly, nor can I spare the direct power outlet required with a power-line adapter. I simply need every outlet I can get and cannot afford to block any direct outlet.
My solution is to use a more powerful wireless router. I found the ASUS RT-AC66U Dual-Band Wireless-AC1750 Gigabit Router which will likely provide a better connection to my wireless Internet in the master bedroom than the TC. The 802.11ac band of this Asus wireless router is totally useless to me, but based on what I have read I believe this router will provide a stronger connection at greater distances then my TC. And I will be ready for 802.11ac when it becomes more widely available.
However, I still need to maintain the TC's ability to work seamlessly with TM to backup my two laptops. Also, I doubt the new Asus router will provide OS X 10.8.2 with NAS like features and capabilities. Therefore, I still would like to use the TC's NAS capabilities to share files on my network wirelessly assuming the Asus wireless router fails to provide this feature. I need a new and more powerful wireless router, but I need to maintain the TC's NAS features and seamless integration with TM. Finally, I want to continue to use my Apple laptop and AirPlay to wirelessly access and play my iTunes music collection stored on the TC's hard drive. I also want to continue to use my Apple laptop, AirPlay and Apple TV to wirelessly watch movies and TV shows stored on the additional external hard drive connected to the TC via USB. Can someone advise on how to set-up my existing TC with this new Asus wireless router in such a way to accomplish all of this?
Modem
Motorola SB6121 SURFboard DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem
Existing Wireless Router and Primary Wi-Fi Base Station - Apple Time Capsule
Apple Time Capsule MC343LL/A 1TB Sim DualBand (purchased June 2010, likely the Winter 2009 Model)
Desired New Wireless Router and Primary Wi-Fi Base Station - Non-Apple Asus
ASUS RT-AC66U Dual-Band Wireless-AC1750 Gigabit Router
Extended Wi-Fi Base Station - Provides an Ethernet Connection to a Denon A/V Receiver Two Rooms Away from the Modem
Netgear Universal Dual Band Wireless Internet Adapter for TV & Blu-Ray (WNCE3001)
Addition External Hard Drive Attached to the Existing Apple Time Capsule via USB
WD My Book Studio 4TB Mac External Hard Drive Storage USB 3.0
Existing Laptops on the Wireless Network Requiring Time Machine Backups
MacBook Air (11-inch, Mid 2012) OS X 10.8.2
MacBook Pro (13-inch Mid 2010) OS X 10.8.2
Other Existing Apple Products (Clients) on the Wireless Network
iPod Touch (second generation) is model A1288.
iPad (1st generation)
Apple TV (3rd generation) - Quantity two (2)Thanks Bob Timmons.
In regards to a Plan B, I hear ya brother. I am already on what feels like Plan Z. Getting WiFi to a far off room in an apartment building crowded with WiFi routers is a major pain.
I am basing my thoughts on the potential of a new and more powerful router reaching the far off master bedroom based on positive reviews on cnet.com, pcmag.com and pcworld.com. All 3 of these web sites have reviewed the Asus RT-AC66U 802.11AC wireless router as well as its virtual twin cousin 802.11n router. What impressed me is that all 3 sites rated this router #1 overall in terms of both range and speed (in both the 802.11n and 802.11AC flavors). They tested the router in real world scenarios where the router needed to compete with a lot of other wireless routers. One of the sites even buried this Asus router in a media room with thick walls and inside a media cabinet. This Asus router should be able to serve my 2.4 GHz band wireless clients (iPod Touch and iPhone 4) with a 2.4GHz Wireless-N band offering some 50 feet of dependable range and a 60 Mbps throughput at that range. I am hoping that works, but it's borderline for my master bedroom. My 5 GHz wireless clients (laptops) will enjoy a 5GHz Wireless-N band offering 150 feet of range and a 200 Mbps throughput at that range. I have no idea what most of that stuff means, but I did also read that Asus could reach 300 feet and I got really excited. My mileage may vary of course and I'm sure I'm making some mistakes in my interpretation of their data. However, my Winter 2009 Time Capsule was rated by cnet.com to deliver real world performance of less than that, and 802.11AC may or may not be useful to me someday. But when this Asus arrives and provides anything other than an excellent and consistent wireless signal without drops in the master bedroom it's going right back!
Your solution sounds great, but I have some questions. I'm using OS X 10.8.2 and Airport Utility (version 6.1 610.31) and on its third tab labeled "Wireless" the top option enables you to set "Network Mode" to either:
Create a wireless network
Extend a wireless network
Off
Given your advice to "Turn off the wireless on the TC," should I set Network Mode to Off? Sorry, I'm clueless in regards to how to turn off the wireless on the TC any other way. Can you provide specific steps on how to turn off the wireless on the TC? If what I wrote is correct then what should the rest of this Wireless tab look like, or perhaps it is irrelevant when wireless is off?
Next, what do you mean by "Configure the TC in Bridge Mode?" Under Airports Utility's fourth tab labeled "Network" the top option "Router Mode" allows for either:
DHCP and Nat
DHCP Only
Off (Bridge Mode)
Is your advice to Configure the TC in Bridge Mode as simple as setting Router Mode to Off (Bridge Mode)? If yes, then what should the rest of this "Network" tab look like? Anything else involved in configuring the TC in Bridge Mode or is it really as simple as setting the Router Mode to "Off (Bridge Mode)"?
How about the other tabs in Airport Utility, can they all stay as is assuming I use the same network name and password for the new Asus wireless router? Or do I need to make any other changes to the TC via Airport Utility?
Finally, in regards to your Plan B suggestion. I agree. But do you have a Plan B for me? I would greatly appreciate any alternative you could provide. Specifically, if you needed a TC's Internet connection to reach a far off corner of your home how would you do it? In the master bedroom I need both a wired Ethernet connection for the Denon a/v receiver and wireless Internet connection for the iPhone and iPod Touch.
Power-Line Adapters - High Cost, Blocks at Least One Wall Outlet and Does Not Solve the Wireless Need
I actually like exactly one power-line adapter, which is the D-Link DHP-540 PowerLine AV 500 4-Port Gigabit Switch. This D-Link power-line adapter plugs into your wall outlet with a normal sized plug (regular standard power cord much like any other electronic device) instead of all of the other recommended power-line adapters that not only use at least one wall outlet but also often block the second outlet. You cannot use a power strip with a power-line adapter which is very impractical for me. And everything about my home is strange and upside down. The wiring here is a disaster and I don't have faith in its ability to carry Internet access from the living room to the master bedroom. And this D-Link power-line adapter costs $90 each and I need at least two to make the connection to the Denon A/V receiver. So, $180 on this solution and I still don't have a dependable drop free wireless connection in the master bedroom. The Denon might get its Ethernet Internet connection from the power-line adapter, but if I want to use an iPhone 4 or iPod Touch to stream AirPlay music to the Denon wirelessly (Pandora/iTunes, etc.) from the master bedroom the wireless connection will not be stable in there and I've already spent $190 on just the two power-line adapters needed.
Extenders / Repeaters / Wirelessly Extending the Wireless Network
I have also read great things about the Amped Wireless High Power Wireless-N 600mW Gigabit Dual Band Range Extender (Repeater) SR20000G and the My Net Wi-Fi Range Extender. The former is very powerful and the latter is easier to install. Both cost about $150 ish so similar to a new Asus router. However, everything I read about Range Extenders points to them not being very effective for a far off corner of your house wherein it's apparently hard to place the range extender in the sweet spot where it both gets a strong enough signal to actually effectively extend the wireless signal and otherwise does not reduce network throughput speeds to unacceptable speeds.
Creating a Roaming Network By Hard Wiring with Ethernet Cable - Wife Would Say, "**** No!"
Even Apple seems to warn against wirelessly extending your network (see: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4145#) and otherwise strongly recommends a roaming network where Ethernet cable is used to connect two wireless base stations. However, I am in an apartment where stringing together two wireless base stations with Ethernet cable would have an extremely low wife acceptance factor (WAF). I cannot (both contractually and from a skill prospective) hide Ethernet wire in the walls or ceiling. And having visible Ethernet cable running from room-to-room would be unacceptable, especially to the wife.
So what is left? Do you have a Plan B for me? Thanks in advance for your help! -
ITunes, Apple TV, a NAS drive and Time Capsule - an idiot's guide
Hi,
I really need some help, and even though I know the information is already on the web, I just need someone to tell me what to do in my circumstance.
I have a new Macbook with 250GB hard drive which is now almost full! I have an Apple TV box which is also almost full. I have a 320GB Iomega NAS which is not almost full as I haven't really used it properly and I have just got a 1TB Time Capsule as I'm petrified of losing everything!
I have just over 175GB of music and films/tv programmes. I have also just finished making sure all the album artwork is correct (I know - very sad!).
Currently the entire library is on my Macbook. I backed it up to the NAS drive (although I did it via a USB connection rather than over my home network).
With only about 23GB of space left on my Macbook I decided the time was right to use the NAS properly. (I only really want to use the Time Capsule as a back up, although I guess there is probably a problem there as well if I move everything of importance (i.e. the music and films) to the NAS but lets leave that one for the time being.
Basically what I want to know is how to use itunes with the NAS so that the music and films etc are stored on the NAS but not the rest of the information (the itunes database and album art folders).
I tried it before and it kind of worked but the first time it update the library file and having just sorted out all the album artwork I don't want to have to do it again.
I should say that I am the only one in the house who uses itunes, my laptop, am the only one with an ipod and iphone, so there is no issue with someone sharing the library or anything like that.
So, question 1 - how do I set up itunes to work with the NAS.
Question 2 - in doing so, will I have to correct all the artwork again?
Question 3 - if all the music etc is on the NAS, how do I back it up to the Time Capsule?
A more complicated question is can I keep the music on my laptop and films/tv programmes on the NAS?
Will all of this make the Apple TV box stop working?
Finally, I have already found an apple script which automounts the NAS and then starts itunes as I have read that that can cause a problem.
Thanks for any/all your help.
AnthonyThere isn't a solution, the Apple TV will only read your iTunes library if iTunes is running and will only play content through iTunes.
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Can I use time capsule as nas attached to another wireless router?
my 4 year old time capsule was starting to drop it's connection to the internet intermittently. so I decided to buy a new linksys ea4500 and that's now setup as my main wireless router. can I still salvage my time capsule by attaching it to the new linksys router, using ethernet cable, and using it as a NAS drive? my purpose is to continue using the time capsule as a NAS hdd for time machine backups.
I read somewhere that the time capsule cannot be set up in client mode, so does this mean I can't attach it to non-apple wireless routers?
thanks in advance to anyone who helpsYou can connect the Time Capsule using an Ethernet cable to any router that you want. The key is to configure the Time Capsule in Bridge Mode.
Here is an example from a recent post a few minutes ago using a 2-Wire router:
Re: TC + AT&T U-Verse -
I want to stream media from a NAS drive connected to my Time Capsule.
I recently bought the Time Capsule to serve as my backup and my wireless router. Both of my Macs are now using it via Time Machine. I now want to move my large ITunes and IPhoto databases from an external hard drive on one Mac to a network drive where I can stream/view from either Mac. What is the best way to do this?
1. Buy a NAS drive with just ethernet and connect to one of the three port on the Time Capsule? If so, what is the best drive to buy?
2. Use a USB drive and attack to the USP port on the Time Capsule? If so, will any USB drive work?
3. Other?maxlemke wrote:
1. Buy a NAS drive with just ethernet and connect to one of the three port on the Time Capsule? If so, what is the best drive to buy?
i recently moved my iTunes library to a NAS. i'm very happy with performance.
have a look at this discussion.
as for iPhoto, all i have is a link to a recent discuss over atthe Apple TV forum but don't know how relevant it is: https://discussions.apple.com/message/15366429#15366429
2. Use a USB drive and attack to the USP port on the Time Capsule? If so, will any USB drive work?
as long as the drive is properly formatted, yes. you may need to use a powered USB hub. the USB connection may or may not be a bottleneck as compared to full gigabit speed of the NAS. -
How can I backup NAS drive to Time Capsule using Time Machine?
My itunes library is on a USB HD that's connected to my time capsule, essentially turning the drive into a NAS drive. Is there anyway I can include this drive in time machine backups? So basically, time machine would be backing up the hard drive connected to the time capsule... to the time capsule.
Thanks. SteveSorry, but not possible. The Time Capsule can only backup an internal drive on a computer and an external drive that is attached directly to a computer.
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How do I find the ip address of an NAS server attached by ethernet to my time capsule
Hi
I recently had a problem with a USB drive attached to my time capsule. It appeared as a problem even after disconnecting. I reset my time capsule and all is working well except that I can no longer login to administer my Seagate NAS 220. It is working and the volumes all appear but due to the Lion upgrade the software to adminster it no longer works. I must login via the internet. The previous IP (10.0.1.4) no longer can find the drive. How do I learn the correct IP?Look in the dhcp client table in the log.
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Time Capsule, External HDD as NAS, Time Machine Backup the NAS
Can I attach an external HDD to Time Capsule to use as a NAS? Then can I use Time Machine on my Macbook to backup both my Macbook and the NAS drive to the HDD in the Time Capsule?
Can I attach an external HDD to Time Capsule to use as a NAS?
Yes. Although it will not exactly be a NAS with its own "brains".
Then can I use Time Machine on my Macbook to backup both my Macbook and the NAS drive to the HDD in the Time Capsule?
No. In order to back up the hard drive using Time Machine, the drive must be connected to your Mac, not the Time Capsule. -
Hi
Would anyone know if I can I move my iTunes library onto Time Capsule and share it across my devices (similar to a NAS drive)?
This would give me some hard drive space on my iMac and more importantly mean my iTunes library is available all the time. Although I have Home sharing I need my iMac on and if not I use iTunes on iCloud I always seem to be downloading the tracks I need.
Current configuration / devices:
iMac 20-inch, Mid 2007 - nearly full!
Processor 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory 4 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
OSX Mavericks
Time Capsule (1TB)
iPad
iPod Touch
Apple TV
iTunes 11.1.5 (5)
Many thanksWhat "devices" are these? By devices I normally understand i-devices and not computers. How many computers?
If you put the whole library on the Time Capsule (TC) you can only use it with one computer at a time because the iTunes library file can only be opened by one copy of iTunes at a time. If you put only media on the TC but have a copy of the library files on each computer you can use media by multiple computers but you then have the headache of trying to make sure that any changes done to the collection by one computer are mirrored by the libraries on the other computers which will be more or less independent.
I hope this TC isn't also your backup drive. When the TC drive fails (and it will someday) then your whole collection is gone. Don't rely upon Apple to always have copies for you to download. For one, if a distributor puylls an item then it is gone period. Additionally, Apple only keeps media, not the actual organization that is your set of library files. If you do this, buy another backup drive. -
Time Capsule vs. Airport Extreme w/ HD vs NAS
It looks like I'm having trouble with my current Time Machine drive and will need to replace it.
I'm considering several options.
I mainly use Time Machine with a FireWire 800 drive for quick backup of my iMac. I'm pretty lax about backing up my MacBook, though--months going by before I remember to attach it to a different drive to back it up, too. So, I've been considering a network solution; the dying Time Machine drive is sort of the kick I needed to go ahead.
Obviously, a Time Capsule is a quick and easy solution to it all. However, one concern is that, as with other multipurpose devices, is that if one part dies, that pretty much kills the second part--i.e., if the hard drive fails, then I must (potentially) replace the whole unit (from what I've heard, replacing the drive in a Time Capsule isn't for the faint of heart).
Then there's an Airport Extreme; from what I understand, you can attach a USB drive to the newest models for use as a Time Machine backup:
http://tidbits.com/e/14347
Of course, that's USB 2, which'll be on the slow side as compared to FW 800, but there's the benefit that if I need to restore, I can detach the drive from the AE and hook it up straight to the Mac, which should be quicker than a wifi restore (for the MacBook; I'd have the iMac hooked via Ethernet).
But there's the consideration that I have a FiOS router, so I don't really NEED another one; I don't think the Time Capsule or Airport really gives me much more than the FiOS router does, and I'd still need the Verizon router attached anyway for other services.
So, the last choice is an NAS drive. It might not play as well as a TM drive, as Apple did take some pains to support their own hardware... are there NAS drives that work better as Time Machine drives than others?
So, the essential question is, what would make the best Time Machine backup, if I want to back up two Macs (one by wifi)?Well thought out question.
Not easy to answer.
Some considerations..
1. A fast wireless router is worthwhile.. I am not sure of the FIOS but if it has only 2.4ghz it is restricted to 130Mbps in the Apple products even if it can do 270 or 300Mbps on all the rest. Apple deliberately restrict 2.4ghz to N lite. So you need a router that is 450Mbps or better the new AC version at 5ghz. And you need that router near where the Macbook usually resides. 5ghz fast connections are not going to be long range.
So you can buy a Gen5 AE.. or even a second hand Gen4 TC.. either are pretty good buys. The Gen5 AE I see on ebay all the time for around the $80 mark including post. The Apple refurbished store might even have stock.
And of course Apple are not the only brand.. you can buy excellent high speed wireless routers .. Asus RT-AC66U soundly beats the AC apple version.. (wonder how long that sentence will last!!)
AC is worthwhile if your Macbook is AC .. otherwise the older Gen5 AE are good value.
2. I reckon a 1 year old TC Gen4 is also a good buy.. they sell around $150 in our market. Easy to setup.. fairly reliable. And you are not going to be worried to open it up and swap the hard disk.. which is actually easy.
ifixit rate it as moderate.. really it is less than that .. if you can read instructions.
http://www.ifixit.com/Device/Apple_Time_Capsule
3. A fast drive.. FW800 are still very good.. USB3 better and Thunderbolt tops but bank account emptying experience. It is possible to share the drive to the network.
http://code.stephenmorley.org/articles/time-machine-on-a-network-drive/
That is the best combo.. use the local external with TM.. and do it over wireless with to the iMac shared drive from the Macbook.
4. NAS is a good but they can be unreliable.. even a USB drive on the AE can be unreliable. Up to the Gen5 Apple said it was not supported. Many people found out it was NOT supported... really.. not supported.. although it works for some.. How much is your data worth?? -
Hey everyone,
So my current set up at the moment is a Mac Mini with a 3TB external hard drive hooked up for my iTunes library and a 1TB external hard drive used for Time Machine backups for the Mac Mini and 2 Macbook Pros.
I can't decide which would be better to use a Time Capsule or a Synology NAS for the following:
My iTunes library to share to my Apple TV, and other iDevices.
Time Machine backups for all 3 computers and 2 iPhones and 2 iPads
And possibly a file sharing location for use with OS X Server.
And Caching location for app downloads used with OS X Server
What device do you think would be better to use.Is your mini running OSX server now??
If you plan to install a computer running Server, then I would work out that setup..
This is a "don't quote me" but when you use a server.. you don't want the files to be on network drives.
ie using a server and using network drives (either TC or Synology) means you have competing requirements.
Server should have local disks so it has full control over permissions etc.
Synology in particular is designed as a server replacement.. you don't use a small server plus a synology. You can use TC but only as TM backup location and router.
For your bullet points.
My iTunes library to share to my Apple TV, and other iDevices.
The Synology would be better.. but you still will need a computer running. Home serving of iTunes must be done via a computer.. therefore your library is located in the wrong place. The built in iTunes in the synology.. is really ??? Sorry cannot say much until I get it setup and running.. !!
Time Machine backups for all 3 computers and 2 iPhones and 2 iPads
Any will do as TM target. iOS devices backup to iTunes or iCloud.. There is no TM for iOS. And it will need a real iTunes.. not synology itunes.
And possibly a file sharing location for use with OS X Server.
And Caching location for app downloads used with OS X Server
You are using the Synology as dumb storage. A USB drive plugged into the OS X Server computer will be faster, cheaper and more reliable. You are effectively buying two servers and bypassing on of them to simply use its hard disk.. pointless. -
Can you connect external HD to time capsule and use it as NAS?
I have a Time Capsule which I uses to back up my family's mac. I also have an Airport Extreme to extend the range. I have no problem reversing the function as to have the Time Capsule extend if need be.
My wife's old Power PC display took a crap, and we're thinking of getting the new MacBook Air. Unfortunately this means space will be a premium. We're wondering if it is possible to connect an external HD to either Time Capsule or Airport Extreme to use it as NAS? We plan to move all our videos, mainly home video, and iTunes library to it and have the whole family access it from there.
There are few problems I might see. While me and my wife share the same iTunes library, my little sister totally have different library. I'm sure some songs overlaps. Is there any way to consilidate this without having overlaps? Also, is it possible to still organize it so I only have my current library sync to my iOS devices without manually managed music?
I have a few old HD from my macbooks that just sitting around. One is 250GB and the other is 320GB that I'd like to see it getting some use if possible.I can't answer all your questions, but what you propose sounds feasible. You should find additional advice in this article.
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Can I add a NAS via ethernet to the Time Capsule network?
"I'm a PC," but am sick of spending all my time with Windows/Network conflicts and am getting ready to take the plunge into the Mac world (insert applause here).
My router/switch is old, and I want "n" wireless capability, so my plan here is to go whole hog and buy a Macbook Pro, an iMac, and a brand new network infrastructure including the 2TB Time Capsule. This way I will stay completely within the Apple family.
I have a Netgear ReadyNAS 2TB that I would like to have available as a second back-up drive on the network. It can only be on the network via ethernet (LAN). It cannot be plugged into the Time Capsule's USB port.
Will I be able to add this drive and get Time Capsule (and even Time Machine) to "play nice" with it? Can I even set the Time Machine on each computer to back up to this drive?
Or should I just sell the ReadyNAS and get a USB drive that will work with the time capsule?
Finally, there are only 3 ethernet ports on the TC. Can I add a switch?
Thanks for any help anyone can offer,
ShawnBroncoCountry wrote:
Will I be able to add this [NAS] drive and get Time Capsule (and even Time Machine) to "play nice" with it? Can I even set the Time Machine on each computer to back up to this drive?
It's reasonable to expect your NAS drive to work when connected to your Time Capsule network. However, it will be difficult for you to use it for Time Machine backups. Apple only supports Time Machine network backups to the disk in a Time Capsule.
It's easy to have multiple computers backing up via Time Machine to the same Time Capsule.
Or should I just sell the ReadyNAS and get a USB drive that will work with the time capsule?
That's up to you. Keep in mind that Apple still doesn't want you to use that USB drive for Time Machine backups.
Finally, there are only 3 ethernet ports on the TC. Can I add a switch?
Yes. -
Problems connecting a NAS to Time Capsule
Hi everyone,
I just purchased a Time Capsule for backing up my Mac Book Pro, and to use as my wireless router. I also have a Western Digital My Book NAS drive that I want to connect to the Time Capsule via an ethernet cable.
I want to use this NAS drive just for extra storage, not for backing up with Time Machine or anything like that... and I already know that I can easily plug a USB drive into Time Capsule.
The problem I am having is that according to the instructions with my NAS drive, once the NAS is plugged into the router (ie Time Capsule) via ethernet, it is suppose to show up in my Finder (under 'Shared') and then I can begin to configure it. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be that easy. I don't have anything showing up in the Finder at all (other then the Time Capsule Data drive). I have tried the usual restarting my computer, router etc... but nothing I do seems to help.
I don't know all that much about networks, but I am wondering if there is something I need to set up in the Airport Utility to be able to see the drive?
Any feedback, guidance or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!Annalog wrote:
I just purchased a Time Capsule for backing up my Mac Book Pro, and to use as my wireless router. I also have a Western Digital My Book NAS drive that I want to connect to the Time Capsule via an ethernet cable.
The problem I am having is that according to the instructions with my NAS drive, once the NAS is plugged into the router (ie Time Capsule) via ethernet, it is suppose to show up in my Finder (under 'Shared') and then I can begin to configure it. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be that easy. I don't have anything showing up in the Finder at all (other then the Time Capsule Data drive).
The NAS drive should appear in the same place as the Time Capsule Data drive.
I don't know all that much about networks, but I am wondering if there is something I need to set up in the Airport Utility to be able to see the drive?
Not really. Assuming that the Time Capsule is configured (in the Internet panel, Internet Connection tab) with "Connection Sharing" set to "Share a public IP address", and that the NAS drive is configured to be a DHCP client.
One thing you could to do investigate things is to launch AirPort Utility, put the Time Capsule into "manual setup" mode, pull down the "Base Station" menu, select "Logs and Statistics", then select the "DHCP Clients" tab. Look for the NAS drive there. If you're having trouble identifying it, this Web site can identify the manufacturer assigned each range of MAC addresses:
http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/
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