NETGEAR WNDR3700 and FIOS Victory and a cautionary tale of security with a FIOS Router

I added FIOS as our IP in January.  We recieved a good deal for superior speed 25/25 Mbs. 
What I learned after testing the Westell 9100 router provided by Verizon was that port 4567 was continutally open.  And that after serveral calls to Verizon techsupport, and yes hours waiting for a live person (Cummulative waiting time) I was met with silence on the question of the open port and given a canned answer that Verizon does not provide support for that issue.      I tested this at norton, grc.com and auditmypc.  All have the same result,  Port 4567 is open.
I found some helpful hints via google search and via this forum.   What I have learned to my dismay is that anyone, who knows our IP address eventhough it is dynamic every few days,  could telnet the port and if they knew our password, or if a user didnot change the default, could enter our setup and network.  This should send shivers down your spine.
Verizon as I understand it, leaves the port open for firmware updates.  And that its impossible to stealth the port given their software.  Also, Verizon has their own DNS that they list as primary and secondary.  This means, that everything you do online passes through their DNS servers and is recorded.  how do you know? ever get that sudden switch to Verizon search after a google search.
I purchased a router  Actually 2, took one back and upgraded to the Netgear WNDR3700.  What a nightmare in trying to figure out why the connection kept dropping.  After hit and miss in configuring 2 settings that are  must. Dynamically assigned DNS. 
MTU must be set to 1492 in the router WAN setup
your routers mac address must be set to use computer mac address.  in the Basic settings.
I also registered at OpenDNS and use their DNS servers with no issue.  Im trusting one over the other. 
FIOS has changed my IP twice since and my home network runs without a hitch.  I have a HUB set up, PS3. Non fios tv, IP phone  etc etc etc

My Verizon router is not a router. Bridge only. No WAN ports used on my Actiontec. Who needs support? The only reason I would call is if my service stopped working, or slowed down to a problem. I am not most people. My router is a Linux box with a single core CPU, 512meg of RAM, 80 gig drive, and two network cards. Logs everything for 90 days.

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    This is my first post and my first week since I moved from Time Warner Cable over to FIOS for iNet (plus HDTV and phone).     While all my services work, the router as delivered and setup is not optimum for internet quality of service.  Instead it was probably out of the box optimized for HDTV and telephone to satisfy most customers and reduce support overhead.   The average FIOS consumer is multimedia sensitive, but that is not so in my genre of internet consumer.   Here in lies the core of my reason for seeking help from like minded and experienced users in this community.
    One of the main driving forces in my switching to FIOS was to improve my multiplayer gaming experience where ultra low ping latency and high upload data rates dramatically affect the quality of connection and thus gameplay.    The cable internet service from TimeWarner was providing solid 2MB/1MB down/up data rates with no issues like what Im having now with FIOS.   Again the reason for the switch was both financial and in hope of gaining better data rates and quality of service.   Now with FIOS Im getting about 24/15 down/up data rate on the Extreme FIOS 25/25 plan when measured from my house to Los Angeles server (50 miles away) via Speedtest.net or DslReports.com/tests.     Latency wise, the ping has gone down from 150 to 50ms when measured to my friends who I connect to online that are on the East coast.   The data rate and latency has greatly improved in going from Cable to FIOS.   So far, so good.
    Where the problem shows up now, is that now I get an internet "hiccup" every 5-10 minutes that lasts about 1/2 to 2 seconds.   For the average internet user that just streams multimedia or cruises on the net; this is probably undetectable or noticed.   I never had this problem over the same PCs connected wirelessly to my DLINK DGL-4500 Gaming Router when my ISP was TimeWarner's cable service.    Now, using the FIOS and MI-424WR router with everythings being the same; Im experiencing this degregation in quality of service.    Even putting the PC's IP into the DMZ doesnt make any difference, so it is not related to port forwarding.    The issue is squarely in the lap of FIOS and this router as delivered and configured.    This is where the "game" is a foot, and where I need expertise in an area Im new to. 
    I am not new to being hands on with inet trouble shooting asI have been setting up my own home network (I work from home over VPN to work) for decades;  I would like to leverage the skills of those who are experts in the area that I think can address this issue.   That being QoS and the other device class mechanisms of this router.   Its my guess that this periodic hiccup can be minimized and even eliminated using these advanced features of this all-in-one TV/iNet/Tele router.   
    With that context being laid down, this hiccup doesnt show up if:
    a.  I connect two PCs connected to the same ethernet hub of the MI-424WR (traffic just over the LAN and not WAN)
    b.  When I was on Cable with my own gaming router wirelessly DHCP connected to my PC and using port forwarding or using the DMZ.  
    The hiccup does exist when:
    a.  Going from internet through the MI-424WR to the wireless DHCP connected PC with port forwarding
    b.  Even putting the wireless DHCP connected PC into the MI-424WR's DMZ has no effect
    I did read the manual and tried some QoS pritority and shaping and managed to reduce how often the hiccup occured, but I was just making guesses at the settings.   I put in the IP for the PCs I use for my gaming applications (which are very ping and jitter sensitive) into the QoS priority (value 7) and shaping GUI.    Im hoping someone with experience can tell me exactly how to use it and what settings to input.   Im not clear on the device and connection types offered in the QoS menus. 
    Another thing, is I couldnt find settings for the turning on/off the ICMP echo.   But I assume this is on because it can be pinged by folks on the net to my WAN IP.
    Here is the manual for the Verizon provided M424WR router (Current Version of firmware: 20.10.7)
    download link
    Here are the QoS traffic priority and shaping values Ive been experimenting with:
    Click to view QoS Traffic Priority
    Click to view QoS Traffic Shaping
    And why it matters to have a solid and stable inet connection for internet gaming?  The hiccup causes slewing or jitter which equates to positional errors in the 3D world that ruins the smooth gameplay that is needed for high end gaming.
    Heres a snapshot of me flying the wing of another flight simmer who is on the East coast and me on the West coast.
    Click to view
    Thank you in advance.
    Thomas "AV8R"
    MSEE

    TMAS wrote:
    the router as delivered and setup is not optimum for internet quality of service.  Instead it was probably out of the box optimized for HDTV and telephone to satisfy most customers and reduce support overhead.  
    That's not accurate.  VZ telephone service does not go through the Actiontec.  Also, there are no default settings for QOS in the Actiontec since QOS is rarely needed with FIOS upload speeds.
    TMAS wrote:I get an internet "hiccup" every 5-10 minutes that lasts about 1/2 to 2 seconds.  
       You should not be experiencing periodic "hiccups".  Something is clearly amiss.
    TMAS wrote:
    With that context being laid down, this hiccup doesnt show up if:a.  I connect two PCs connected to the same ethernet hub of the MI-424WR (traffic just over the LAN and not WAN)
    The hiccup does exist when:
    a.  Going from internet through the MI-424WR to the wireless DHCP connected PC with port forwarding
    b.  Even putting the wireless DHCP connected PC into the MI-424WR's DMZ has no effect
    Lets see.  The issue shows up on a wireless connection, but not a wired connection.  You think this is a QOS issue and not a wireless issue why?  Have you tried changing the wireless channel?  It very possible you have neighbors on the same channel.  Is the DGL-4500 wireless still on?  Could that be interfering?TMAS wrote:
    Another thing, is I couldnt find settings for the turning on/off the ICMP echo.  
    The settting to enable/disable ICMP echo is on the Firewall/Remote Administration page.
    TMAS wrote:
    Here are the QoS traffic priority and shaping values Ive been experimenting with:Click to view QoS Traffic Priority
    Click to view QoS Traffic Shaping 
    The traffic proirity settings you linked are applied only to your wireless connections.  QOS between the router and your wireless PC will only serve to prioritize traffic between the router and that PC and have no affect on your internet traffic.  Assuming you are not running browsers, VOIP and other traffic from that PC while you're gaming, then that will not accomplish anything.  i.e.  You're giving your only traffic highest priority, but that traffic is not competing with anything (except other nearby wireless connections on the same channel).
    On the traffic shaping screenshot, you have broadband ethernet checked, but according to your other thread, your WAN connection is Broadband Coax, not Broadband ethernet.

  • Can I disable my Verizon Fios Router Wireless radio, connect it to a switch and use my airport express as my wireless access point connected to an in wall ethernet port?

    Here's the deal.  I have a Verizon Fios MI424WR router.  My house has CAT5 throughout the house.  The media panel is located in the garage.  I want to take the Verizon Fios Router and cannot it in the media panel so I can connect a switch to it, that way, all my CAT5 can fire throughout the house. Verizon being Verizon decided to connect the router directly in the office. 
    Can I go this route (Router in media panel, switch cross connect to it) and use Airport Express, connected to one of the in-wall CAT5 ports in my house and then set it up as my wireless access point to provide wifi to my portable devices (iPad, iPhone, Macbook)?  Is this possible? Will Airport Express comminicate with my verizon router via ethernet in-wall? Do I have to turn off the wireless radio in the Verizon router?  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

    That is right, by hard wired I was just making clear wired vs wireless attachment.  AirPort family of devices will only act in a repeater mode with their own family members, not FiOS routers.  they have to be wired to work.
    There are some useful docs you can download from Apple, Support, Manuals, Peripherals, AirPort (just follow thos links from the Support button on the top bar):
    Apple AirPort Networks
    Designing AirPort Networks
    AirPort Express Setup Guide
    The last has a diagram of what you are trying to do, though without the house wiring, etc., but the basic principle.

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