NI CRIO 9073 doubt regarding compatibility

Hello,
I have installed 2011 version of labview in one PC and on another PC I have 9.0 version. More, I would like to write a simple program in MODBUS RTU in such a way that can communicate with pressure sensor(Keller) that is already connected to a NI-CRIO 9073(version 10.0) module.
Problems have been faced..
1) When try to connect remotely to my CRIO 9073 from each PC, I gives an error message that the versions are not compatible. I had installed version of 2011 labview but still the CRIO 9073 is not connected to new verstion. Is there any special drivers for this.
2) I don't have modbus Vi options in my 2011 version. I downloaded MODBUS zip file from ni website but I am not sure how can I import that options into my labview functions pallet.
Thank you.

Hi Peter,
"but those two systems are giving compatible error."
That's what I summarized in my previous post. And I gave a hint on how to solve that.
"I am new to measurement and automation in labview."
That doesn't imply you don't need to read the documentation. You have a document coming with your cRIO that describes installation routines and you should be able to contact NI in case of bigger problems...
Best regards,
GerdW
CLAD, using 2009SP1 + LV2011SP1 + LV2014SP1 on WinXP+Win7+cRIO
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