No Tiger....?

Old PowerMac G4, 400MHZ, 896MB. trying to install Tiger on it. burned a copy of Tiger retail (on my 2009 MacBookPro, disk is readable there) and the G4 will not read it. tried with DVD- and DVD+ medias, same result. original (intel) OSX DVDs are readable for some reason on that machine, so i know its in fact a DVD drive and not cd, and that its working properly.
Idea's ?

If you have the retail version of Tiger (black with silver X), why are you trying to use a burned copy? Just us the original. The license that came with the installer only allows the installation of Tiger on one Mac.
Your Mac requires a firmware (Boot ROM version in System Profiler) update. See Mac OS X: Available firmware updates
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86117 The update must be installed (using OS 9) BEFORE you install OS X.
 Cheers, Tom

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Should I Give it Up and Go Back To Tiger?

That's the decision I'm wrestling with right now. My issues are not legion. Mostly they revolve around three things: Stability, Usability and Speed.
STABILITY:
I get odd freezes and random program crashes that have now twice resulted in having to push the power button to reboot. The mouse moves, but nothing works, no menus, can't even bring up the Force Quit window to quit an offending app.
In one day Mail crashed over-and-over until I could no longer use the computer and shut down and pulled out my PowerBook to send an email! After rebooting and fsck'ing and repairing Permissions the problem seemed to go away, but I have way too many crashes of even Apple programs that ought to be playing nicer with Leopard.
I also get a LOT more bouncing beachballs with Leopard in almost every app than with Tiger. Although my main Mac is not Intel or even G5, I should still be well within the system requirements for Leopard with a dual 1.25GHz G4 with 1.75 GB of RAM. My system drive has over 100GB open (I have four internal drives equaling 1.3TB) and I keep all of my software updated.
I do have one 2nd party PCI USB 2.0 card that doesn't require drivers and it works, but I haven't tested Leopard without that card, but I do have USB 2.0 devices that I need to run, so that alone would require a step backward if I couldn't run the USB 2.0 card because of some odd compatibility issue.
USABILITY:
Two things just irritate the heck out of me and one is a minor irritant that I probably just need to learn more about
One is the lack of hierarchical menus in the dock. Unlike a lot of people I like Stacks, but I'd like to have the option to go seamlessly from a Stack to a hierarchical menu.
The other is the inability to put a custom icon on a dock drive or folder. I have to create a dummy folder, put a blank space at the front of the name and use it as the icon for the item, but even then, all those icons behind it clutter up the look of the folder/drive and thus, the dock as a whole. There should be an option for having a SINGLE clean icon without going through odd gymnastic to get one!
I have a very small issue with the behavior of Spotlight. In Tiger, a Spotlight search's results were displayed in a more quick and orderly way, at least that how it seems to me. In Leopard when you click "show all" although it categorizes them as I have it set up in Spotlight's preferences, there isn't a clear delineation between classifications and there is no "info" button to quickly see the path and general info for the file. To see info you have to right click and choose "Show Info" unless I am missing something.
However, the addition of Boolean logic categories by option-clicking the plus sign or clicking to add categories to the search rules negates a lot of my gripe about Spotlight. I'd like to see it be as responsive as Tiger, but it's hard to argue with the ability to drill-down to exactly what you're looking for.
But, Spotlight is also MUCH slower than Tiger's Spotlight which leads me to:
SPEED:
As mentioned, I have one of the fastest G4s and a dual processor to boot and I'm nearly maxed on RAM, so you'd think Leopard would run faster, but there is a general lag in usability across the board. Not a killer lag, but noticeable and the aforementioned beachballs pop up enough to add even MORE of an irritating lag to the process. I find myself hitting "Force Quit" a LOT more often and seeing "'program x has stopped responding" in the Force Quit menu.
I like Leopard. There are some nice features that truly do improve the overall utility of the OS, so I think it's a good release, but there are just too many issues for me now, maybe because of my G4 PowerMac, it seems to have fewer issues (except for the speed thing) on my FW 800 Powerbook, but for now I want fast and logical and Tiger is all that.
I will return to Leopard if I step back because it's just too good an update to ignore and it is after all, the future of Macs, but right now Leopard is killing my productivity. On more than one occasion I've lost data before saving when a crash happened and that was a VERY rare occurrence with Tiger.
JoeL
Message was edited by: joeldm

Thanks for the responses!
I always do a clean install, backing up, formatting the drive, etc. I find it reduces the number of issues overall.
I was going to do a dual-boot setup with Tiger originally, but I've had such good luck with OS X updates that I wasn't concerned. But since I've had these problems, I hadn't revisited that option so, since I eventually will return to Leopard that may be a good solution.
However, I just read elsewhere after writing this as one of you mentioned, that the 10.5.2 update is slated to be a big release with a lot of fixes, so that may be worth the wait before doing anything precipitous.
There is one very odd thing, though . . . I have an iPhone and while I could sync without a problem initially, recently I've had some issues syncing until now I can't sync at all. I took the iPhone in and they swapped it out for a new phone, but I came home and had the same issues, so before returning to the Apple store I tried it on my PowerBook (running Leopard) and sure enough, it synced with no issues!
So I'm wondering if there isn't some problem that may be hardware-related that is causing me to have more issues on the PowerMac side than on the PowerBook side? I think I need to strip the PowerMac down to its original components, basically unplug everything but the keyboard and mouse, remove that USB card and see what happens.
It ran fine under Tiger so I'm not happy about having to do this, but hey, it's the price of progress and at least it's not that "other" OS!
BTW, I think it's funny how some tech writers are trying, straining to compare the issues that some of us are having with Leopard with the Vista release which was an unmitigated disaster!
I'm content to work through it until I find the same stability I had under Tiger with this new cat . . . let's hope the new update does the trick. Anyone heard a release date for 10.5.2?
Thanks for the suggestions!
JoeL

Client Upgraded from Tiger to Leopard Can No Longer Connect to Tiger Server

I just finished upgrading a G5 2GHz DP Powermac from Tiger to Leopard. This was an Archive and Install upgrade with importing the old settings. After verifying the account migration, including .Mac connectivity, and fixing all 3rd party software compatibilities/upgrades, I tried to connect to our Tiger 4.11 server by clicking on the server's Icon in the Shared section of the Finder Sidebar. The finder then switches to browse the the server for shares: "Connecting..." is displayed under the tool bar, with a "Share Screen..." and "Connect As..." buttons to the right.
At this point the "Connecting..." remains displayed with the spinning circle in the bottom right of the Finder window.... spinning. This situation continues for several minutes until is seems the system gives up.
If I click on the Path button on the Tool Bar, and go up to the Shared level, ALL the Shares on the Network are displayed, including all the Tiger Client machine shares. I can click on the triangle beside the Tiger Client's icon, and all the drives and home directories on the Mac are listed. All the client shares can be accessed without any issues. NOTE: There are no other Leopard clients on the LAN.
Prior to the Leopard upgrade, this client could connect to the Tiger server as well. All the other clients on the LAN can access the Tiger server also.
On the Leopard client I have tried clicking and the "Connect As..." button and using the menu "Connect to Server" and specifying the server's IP, and I get the same "Connecting..." message with a "non-connecting" result.
I can only assume that somehow the Account Name and password are not being passed correctly. But, using "Connect As..." should resolve that. However, "Connect As..." does not give me a user/password window!
If I check the AFP Access log on the Server, the only messages displayed are "Mounted Volume..." No messages in the error log, and no messages in the "Connections" section.
Can anyone help me figure out why the Leopard client can not connect to the Tiger Server?
My apologies if the description of my problem is a bit disjointed. I have been thrown into server admin and am learning "Trial by Fire".
Any help or suggestions on how to resolve this issue will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Gary
Message was edited by: Gary Sumlak

OK. A quick update.
After waiting for about 10 minutes for the rotating circle in the bottom right corner to stop, I was able to click on the "Connect As..." button. It took another 10 minutes, but the Connect As window eventual popped up. I entered the Userid and Password (saving to Keychain) and was able to see all the sharepoints on the the server. I browsed all the connected drives and folders without issue.
I then disconnected from the server. Reviewing the AFP logs on the server shows messages for the connection Login and Logout.
I then tried to reconnect to the server, and again another 10 minutes wait, although this time the Leopard client eventually connected automatically with the proper User, as per the AFP logs confirms.
Although, the client can now connect to the server, for it to take 10 minutes will be unacceptable to management, not to mention the end user. Tiger clients can connect in a couple seconds!
Is there a way to reduce the Leopard login time to, say, a couple seconds, like it does with the Tiger clients?
Again, any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Gary

Matias Keyboard No Longer Recognized by Leopard PB G4 But By Tiger

In February I took a month long trip with my Leopard-based PB G4 and Matias folding USB Keyboard. Everything worked together fine until after my return in early March when I noticed that the keyboard no longer worked with my laptop. Since my return I have received the normal Apple-push updates to my system. I tested the keyboard on my daughter's Dell laptop and it worked fine. I checked the keyboard with a friend's Leopard-based MacBook but to no avail. I called Apple Tech support and they initially informed me that it was not a Leopard issue because all third-party hardware should be automatically recognized by the computer. They also walked me through doing a reset of the computer to bring it back to original operating configuration. I contacted Matias who had their senior engineer look into the USB-capable keyboard and said they are not aware of any problems between the keyboard and Leopard. They also did not have a patch to push to me to get it connecting again but I will be keeping in contact with them about this. I brought my computer into an Apple store only to have them confirm that the keyboard is not being recognized by the USB drives, but there was nothing else they could do for me. I had the USB drives checked out a seperate computer store authorized to work on Apple computers and they both worked fine. At home, nothing that runs through the USB ports is NOT being recognized, everything works fine. While at the same computer store I found an older iMac using Tiger (10.4.7) and successfully tested it there after going through the normal syncing process. But on NONE of their Leopard-based Macs did it work which leads me to believe it is somehow related to either Leopard or an update everyone has received. While the folding keyboard may have only cost $99, I am hesitant to spend $75 for a service call at an authorized repair shop, and they advise me to re-consider having to visit them. Only because it is a great travel accessory for me to work on longer papers and projects rather than the laptop's own keyboard do I want to get this one working with my computer rather than buying another one. So my questions are, 1) how do I individually disable the updates received since March to determine which one is affecting recognition of the keyboard, and 2) why would the keyboard continue to work with Tiger and Dell but not on any Leopard-based Mac? Apple Tech's comments are primarily "it's not a Leopard issue, I should go somewhere else" to get it checked out.
The updates since March are:
Battery Update 1.4
Airport Client Update 2009-001
Airport Utility 5.4.1
Time Capsule and Airport Base Station Firmware Update 7.4.1
Front Row 2.1.7
iPhoto 8.0.2 Update
iLife Support 9.0.2
iWeb 3.0.1
iWork 09 9.0.1
iTunes 8.1.1 for Mac
iMovie 8.0.2
Server Admin Tools 10.5.6v1.1
Any assistance from the community would be greatly appreciated.
Rick

Hi, Richard. In answer to your first question, you don't and can't disable the updates you've installed unless you use Time Machine to back up your Powerbook's hard drive. If you do, you can step back in time to just before the last software update, and restore that configuration to your hard drive. Then repeat the process for each previous update. This will be ungodly time-consuming.
If you don't use Time Machine, all you can do is reinstall everything from scratch up to the last point at which you're sure your keyboard was working properly, and then add the subsequently-released updates one at a time until you discover the one that renders the keyboard useless. Then reinstall everything all over again from scratch except that one update.
If I were you and were facing this incredibly tedious diagnostic process, I'd either return to running Tiger or buy a different keyboard.

Spotlight reindexing drives when booting from Leopard to Tiger & vice versa

Hi,
I have two HDs, one with Leopard and the other with Tiger. Whenever I boot into the other HD I find that Spotlight re-indexes my two 750GB music & data drives which takes some time. Why is this? Do they use different versions of the index?
It's a bit of a pain as I have to boot into both OS's every day and cannot use Spotlight while the indexing is running and it also slows the system down. I do not want to turn indexing off as I need it during my work.
Any help/ideas?

dickie001x wrote:
Hi,
I have two HDs, one with Leopard and the other with Tiger. Whenever I boot into the other HD I find that Spotlight re-indexes my two 750GB music & data drives which takes some time. Why is this? Do they use different versions of the index?
yes, they do.
It's a bit of a pain as I have to boot into both OS's every day and cannot use Spotlight while the indexing is running and it also slows the system down. I do not want to turn indexing off as I need it during my work.
Any help/ideas?
I don't think there is any way around this. may I ask why you have to use both tiger and leopard?
you can try using some spotlight alternatives such as [EasyFind|http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/11706] when you are using one of the two OS ( either tiger or leopard) and spotlight for the other os.

Need to upgrade from 10.1.5 to tiger, don't have dvd drive

I only have a cd drive in my old imac. Would like to upgrade to Tiger and add an airport card. Do I need to buy the full version or just an upgrade cd? Is it possible to put an airport card in this imac? Should I add more memory too? I hear it is pretty easy to add memory, but what about the airport card? It has the original operating system that came with the computer and it has never been upgraded. This computer is the white pod style. Thanks!

Hi, and a warm welcome to the forums!
Which exact iMac is it & RAM, HD, etc.?
No upgrade disks unless you can find the right Machine specific one on eBay or such, even the Black Retail version is hard to come by, then you'd need a DVD drive or another PPC Mac around to use Target Mode.
Better than an expensive/slow Airport card if you can even find them, Yes, it can be done, but you might consider one of these with a USB extension cable...
http://www.afterthemac.com/product.php?id=Mac%20USB%20Wireless%20G54SL
http://eshop.macsales.com/Item_XLR8YourMac.cfm?ID=10300&Item=NWTMXP802NPCI
http://eshop.macsales.com/Item_XLR8YourMac.cfm?ID=8862&Item=ASUWL167G
A USB cable will give you much better placement options, and they have better range/speed than Airport cards by far.

Panther to Leopard or Tiger for G5 Imac

Hello,
I am in the process of trying to back up my computer. I bought an external drive that has software that is compatible with OS X10.4.8+. I have panther which is X10.3.x and cannot use the software to back up my data. If I do not upgrade my operating system what is the best plan and how do I back up the data I have on my computer? I am considering upgrading to Tiger because it was the last operating system designed just for the G5 chip. Leopard scares me because I have not read anything about it that is positive with an older non Intel chip imac. Anyone have good experiences with Leopard and their G5 imac? Time machine on Leopard is interesting to me and would be the main reason to update but if the whole operating system does not work well with the G5 imac then I have not improved my computer.
Mark

Use SuperDuper! to make an exact bootable clone of your system to your external firewire drive. That way, if anything goes wrong, and it shouldn't, you will have everything saved.
A hint, when you have installed Leopard, use the [10.5.6 combo updater|http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosx_updates/macosx1056co mboupdate.html] to get yourself up-to-date.
Do post back and let us know how things went,

I don't have a dual-layer drive, can I install Tiger or Leopard?

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Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, and Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard come on what appear to be larger than 4.7 GB discs. This does not mean you need a dual layer drive to install them. Some Macs capable of installing Tiger or Leopard came with a built-in CD-RW, or CD-ROM drive. For those a compatible Firewire DVD drive for booting Mac OS X can work instead of replacing the internal drive. Tiger also came in a limited edition Media Exchange Program CD installer package, which you may be able to find in the open market. The limitation for each is dependant on other hardware:
1. If your Mac shipped new with no Firewire, you may be able to install Tiger a special third party addon software known as XPostFacto.
2. If your Mac shipped new with less than 867 Mhz built-in processor (including dual processor 800 MHz or less), you may be able to install Leopard with a special third party addon software known as Leopard Assist.
3. If your Mac shipped with a processor upgrade card installed, and #2 is true, a firmware update may be available from the processor upgrade card vendor that allows Leopard's installation.
4. Tiger needs at least 256 MB of RAM.
Leopard needs at least 512 MB of RAM.
If you have a lot of dashboard widgets, you may need to increase RAM to improve performance on either operating system. The RAM needs to follow Apple's specs to ensure smooth operation. Only get RAM with a lifetime warranty.
5. Officially you need for Tiger:
"At least 3 GB of free disk space; 4 GB if you install the XCode 2 Developer Tools" from: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1514
And officially for Leopard you need:
"9 GB of available disk space or more" from http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3759
However, I would add to that if your hard drive doesn't have at least 15% of the drive free in addition to that, you may experience significant slowing down in the operating system function. This number has been arbitrarily discovered by many users.
6. When installing Tiger or Leopard, if your machine shipped with Panther (10.3) or earlier, be sure to get the retail Tiger or retail Leopard.
The Tiger installer is a san serif gray and white X with a spotlight on the center of the X on a black background.
The Leopard installer is a san serif black and gray X on a pink galaxy centered on a black background.
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Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, and Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard come on what appear to be larger than 4.7 GB discs. This does not mean you need a dual layer drive to install them. Some Macs capable of installing Tiger or Leopard came with a built-in CD-RW, or CD-ROM drive. For those a compatible Firewire DVD drive for booting Mac OS X can work instead of replacing the internal drive. Tiger also came in a limited edition Media Exchange Program CD installer package, which you may be able to find in the open market. The limitation for each is dependant on other hardware:
1. If your Mac shipped new with no Firewire, you may be able to install Tiger a special third party addon software known as XPostFacto.
2. If your Mac shipped new with less than 867 Mhz built-in processor (including dual processor 800 MHz or less), you may be able to install Leopard with a special third party addon software known as Leopard Assist.
3. If your Mac shipped with a processor upgrade card installed, and #2 is true, a firmware update may be available from the processor upgrade card vendor that allows Leopard's installation.
4. Tiger needs at least 256 MB of RAM.
Leopard needs at least 512 MB of RAM.
If you have a lot of dashboard widgets, you may need to increase RAM to improve performance on either operating system. The RAM needs to follow Apple's specs to ensure smooth operation. Only get RAM with a lifetime warranty.
5. Officially you need for Tiger:
"At least 3 GB of free disk space; 4 GB if you install the XCode 2 Developer Tools" from: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1514
And officially for Leopard you need:
"9 GB of available disk space or more" from http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3759
However, I would add to that if your hard drive doesn't have at least 15% of the drive free in addition to that, you may experience significant slowing down in the operating system function. This number has been arbitrarily discovered by many users.
6. When installing Tiger or Leopard, if your machine shipped with Panther (10.3) or earlier, be sure to get the retail Tiger or retail Leopard.
The Tiger installer is a san serif gray and white X with a spotlight on the center of the X on a black background.
The Leopard installer is a san serif black and gray X on a pink galaxy centered on a black background.
This is the 1st version of this tip. It was submitted on Dec 23, 2009 by a brody.
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Getting a larger hard drive...and want to upgrade to Tiger...help!

Hello everyone!
I have a dualie MDD with the stock 60 gig hard drive that I want to upgrade. I'd like a 200 or 250 gig hard drive.
Once I have the new hard drive installed, I'd like to upgrade to Tiger. But I'm lost as to how this process works. I know I'd need to clone my current OS, but then how do I clone it to the new drive once it's installed?
Would I:
1) Back my system up onto CD/DVDs/external drive/whatever
2) Create clone of system using CCC or Disk Utilities
3) Install new drive??
4) ???
5) Upgrade to Tiger??
I'm not sure if two drives running so close to each other inside the hard drive cage is a wise move considering how hot the inside of an MDD gets, so I may remove the 60 once everything is up and running.
So how do I go about this the right way? Detailed instructions would be very appreciated. Thank you!

Hi, Pat!
First of all, get the new drive and install it. (Insure you buy an ATA drive and not a SATA drive.) If you need any assistance with installing, configuring, or initializing the drive, please post back.
In the interim, check for updates to your third-party apps to make sure that they will all be up-to-date and Tiger-compatible. Download a free copy of Superduper! or CarbonCopyCloner to later clone your startup drive. You can also use Disk Utility's Restore option for cloning, if you'd rather do so.
Next, you have a decision to make about the Tiger install. You can either upgrade it from Panther on your current drive, or do a fresh install of Tiger and use the Setup Assistant to incorporate your data from the Panther volume. I prefer and would recommend the latter as a much "cleaner" way of upgrading, leaving less "baggage" from the older OS. I would install Tiger directly to the new drive, which precludes the immediate need to clone anything while still leaving the original startup drive and system intact. If you'd rather do the upgrade install, then you should clone the Panther volume to the new drive, check the clone to insure it's okay, and install Tiger over Panther onto one drive or the other.
After installing Tiger, doing the software updates, moving your user files, apps etc. to the Tiger volume, you can run and test it for a week or so to insure all is well and that you have everything you need from the Panther drive. Once you're satisfied, you can then either retain the Panther volume as-is, using it as an alternate startup drive, or (preferably) you can instead erase it, zero it, and clone a copy of your Tiger volume to it as a backup and alternate startup drive.
Feel free to post back with any questions or concerns and one or more of the members will gladly address them.
Gary
1GHz DP G4 Quicksilver 2002, 400MHz B&W rev.2 G3, Mac SE30 Mac OS X (10.4.5) 5G iPod, Epson 2200 & R300 & LW Select 360 Printers, Epson 3200 Scanner

How do I install Tiger on a G3 iMAC from an external DVD drive?

I want to install Tiger on my PPC G3 iMAC. It is 500MHZ with 512 MB Ram, running 10.3.9. It has a CD drive, but CD version of Tiger is no longer available. I purchased a retail version of Tiger, and, on the advice of the Apple Store personnel, purchased an external DVD drive. It is a USB Lacie drive. My iMAC sees the DVD, but when I click the Install icon, it has a Restart button. Clicking the button restarts for 10.3.9. Same thing happens when I use the "C" key. When I try to assign the DVD drive as the startup drive, it says "ding" and won't assign it. What can I do next?

Take the DVD drive back and exchange it for a Firewire model. You cannot boot the iMac from a USB drive. This is basic information your Apple store personnel should know unless you failed to tell them what Mac model you have.

Uninstall snow leopard and go back to tiger 10.4.11

On apparently bad advice I installed snow leopard. Now my Nikon software does not work. I want to go back to 10.4.11. Do I have to erase the disk? I put the original 10.4.3 disk in, but the computer wanted to start it using rosetta.

Yes, you will need to erase the drive and install Tiger from scratch. You may want to make a backup of your current drive just in case. I suggest cloning it to an external drive:
Clone using Restore Option of Disk Utility
1. Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder.
2. Select the destination volume from the left side list.
3. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (journaled, if available) and click on the Erase button. This step can be skipped if the destination has already been freshly erased.
4. Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
5. Select the destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
6. Select the source volume from the left side list and drag it to the Source entry field.
7. Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
Destination means the external drive.
Source means the internal startup drive.
Since I assume your iMac is an Intel model you will have to use the original installer discs that came with the computer. You cannot use a retail copy of Tiger. To start:
Booting From An OS X Installer Disc
1. Insert OS X Installer Disc into the optical drive.
2. Restart the computer.
3. Immediately after the chime press and hold down the "C" key.
4. Release the key when the spinning gear below the dark gray Apple logo appears.
5. Wait for installer to finish loading.
Extended Hard Drive Preparation
1. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger or Leopard.)
2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. SMART info will not be reported on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from the drop down menu to one. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID (for Intel Macs) or APM (for PPC Macs) then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and wait until the process has completed.
After formatting has completed quit DU and return to the installer. Complete your installation.

Hi, I'd like to uninstall this awful OS and go back to Tiger.

Right. I can't stand snow leopard. It's an awful OS. It dwindles in comparison. And I want it GONE! It's completely screwed up very thing from Photoshop, to screen savers.
And the worst thing? Quick Time.
xI paid out for Quick Time pro back when I first got my mac book pro. And it was great. I edits in a blink of an eye when I needed some easy and basic, now I've got to piddle around with iMovie. I don't have time to do that, time is not a luxury I have at work.
So somebody please tell me how to get rid of this crap, and go back to the great Tiger OS. Cheers

Kurt Lang wrote:
Almost without fail, those who seem to have the most trouble with a new OS are those who install over their existing OS instead of erasing the drive and starting from scratch.
I disagree with this very broad statement, at least as it applies to Snow Leopard. The Snow Leopard installer has very little in common with the installers for previous OS versions. For one thing, it never just upgrades selected OS files so the "over their existing OS" phrase doesn't apply in any relevant way. For another, the Snow Leopard installer is designed to install by default only what is needed, based on what is on the target volume, instead of all the extra junk the old installers always did. It even uses the existing OS's network settings to 'phone home' to update its list of incompatible software before installing anything, runs the equivalent of Disk Utility's verify disk check before writing anything to the drive, & more.
Everybody out there has to rewrite their software to either behave properly as 32-bit software it already was, or rewrite it to 64-bit.
Nonsense. I've got lots of old software that hasn't seen any development in years, & it runs perfectly well with Snow Leopard. What doesn't is mostly software that bypasses Apple's recommended API's in favor of some proprietary approach, system level stuff like peripheral drivers that typically have to be rewritten for every major OS upgrade (including for Windows), & just plain badly written software.
I just installed the CS5 Design Premium Suite and realized I can't use any of the the third party plugins I heavily rely on unless I force Photoshop to run in 32-bit mode.
Question: Is Photoshop actually running any slower in 32 bit mode on Snow Leopard than it did on Leopard?
It's been said often in many forums, but here it is again. If you rely on your computer for a living, why on Earth are you jumping right into a new OS without testing it first?
This much I agree with 100%, & even extend it to casual users who just want the smoothest transition possible. That said, it was a much smoother transition for me going from 10.5 to 10.6 than from 10.4 to 10.5 & my Intel Macs are quite noticeably faster running Snow Leopard than Leopard.

How to Uninstall Leopard Upgrade and go back to Tiger

I would like to go back to Tiger and was wondering how to uninstall the Leopard upgrade without having to do a full reformat. Is this possible? Thanks in advance!

nerowolfe wrote:
fenderltd wrote:
I would like to go back to Tiger and was wondering how to uninstall the Leopard upgrade without having to do a full reformat. Is this possible? Thanks in advance!
First, welcome to the Apple boards.
Backup what you have because it probably contains things from the original update you want to keep - network settings, passwords, etc. A bootable clone is your best bet - and test it out.
Then you need to format your HD (full, not quick) with the Leopard DVD and then reboot with the Tiger CD and install it. I am not sure how much you can migrate "downwards" from the Leopard backup, but some things will probably come along OK. Not sure about mail since it was converted by Leopard - will it unconvert? Don't know.
I have read of some who tried to simply install Tiger over Leopard but the results were less than great. You can try it once you have that clone backup, because you won't be losing anything.
I would suggest unplugging the clone during the erase and install process until you get to the migration point.
Message was edited by: nerowolfe
I have a brand new Leopard based MacBook Pro that I need to revert to its previous cat form of Tiger. Would you mind walking me through it? I have Tiger disks that came with another MacBook Pro so those should have all of the machine specific items I will need. As I understand this, I start the computer from the included Leopard disk and do a full format. (I noticed that there is a new partition style named GUID Partition, is this Leopard only?) Next, I load in my Tiger disks and install from those? I do not need to do any system backups as I have no information on this computer as of yet. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks, Brian

I GIVE UP! Is it possible to uninstall Leopard and go back to Tiger?

I am ready to give up for now. Is it possible to uninstall and go back to Tiger?

If you were wise you would consider other options just besides getting rid of Leopard and throwing it away. First, you could wait until Apple releases OS 10.5.1, then install and update to it. This might help take care of some problems. You could dual boot OS 10.4.10 and 10.5 as long as you have the OS 10.4 full install Disk and the OS 10.5 full install disk. I personally will wait until at least Christmas time before I install Leopard. New OS's are always full of bugs. On the Microsoft side, I've read where Windows Vista is still having major problems and is taking a long time to become widely used. These problems take time to fix. When Windows XP came out nobody would upgrade to it because of all it's bugs, now Windows XP is considered the standard on PCs. Mac OS 10.4 was also full of bugs at first, but now we talk about how rock solid it is. Simply give Apple time to fix these problems.

How to properly clean install: erase, partition hard drive, and install tiger then SL

Hello,
     I am a noob at this, so if responders would be kind enough to be detailed / specific with any instructions it would be most helpful! I own a dinosaur apparently (even though I don't think so): the white (not unibody) Intel macbook2,1 (late 2006) 1.83 GHz with currently 1GB of RAM, but I have 2x2GB RAM sitting next to me ready for install. However, first I would like to do a clean uninstall of my computer (running OS X 10.6.8 SL). I also would like to properly partition my hard drive while I'm at it.
     About 6 months ago I had serious crashing issues, along with kernel panics, hangs, applications randomly appearing & disappearing, system settings and options doing the same, fans running high (probably due to the low RAM available), and basically overall screwiness. So, after trying pretty much every option I could find on this community...and many others... (e.g. clean cache, clean old logs, already did a clean uninstall and install of SL, and much much more) I have reached my wits end. I would say that to date I've wasted a good solid 2 months with this.
     The clean install worked for MAYBE a month or so, but then it started acting up again with the fans (even without high pages in/out, CPU or memory usage) and excessive heat, along with the apps freezing and quitting (mind you it would be only two things open such as 1 word document and then firefox-- with flash disabeled). SOOOOOO long story short, I have purchased new RAM and I would like to try this once again, but to ensure I don't screw it up this time I would like some directions as to how to do the uninstall, partition, then reinstall. (currently to date I ensured all updates are completed---even though they are no longer released for SL, and I just did a full backup).
     Also, I need to first install Tiger (my original OS) as when I went to do a hardware test the other day this was not an option (and upon further research it is due to me not using Tiger as a first install and then using my mac box set for SL). I didn't use my original OS first because....one issue encountered when I had tried to install Tiger was that my Disc 2 (the applications one) took around 1.5 hrs to complete, but when I reached the last step of glory where I expected it to say COMPLETE it instead said that there was some sort of issue with the disc..........of course).
     Any help would be greatly appreciated.

1: If near a Apple Store or Authorized Repair, take it to then for a free evaluation, it might have other hardware problems now that it would be a waste of effort even continuing.
2: The RAM needs to be
Maximum Memory
3.0 GB (Actual) 2.0 GB (Apple)
Memory Slots
2 - 200-pin PC2-5300 (667MHz) DDR2 SO-DIMM
Basically what this means is you can put in a 2GB module and a 1GB module for 3GB total.
I wouldn't proceed with installing RAM just yet, not until you get a stable OS X version on the machine, you might have a hard drive needing to be replaced as well which you can do while inserting new RAM.
3: This User Tip can assist in installing 10.6 Snow Leopard, partition format etc.
How to erase and install Snow Leopard 10.6
Software Update fully immediately after setup.
There is no need to install Tiger, he 10.6 disk contains the full 10.6 version, you can either install the iLife from Tiger disks or use Pacifist from Charlesoft to extract them and place on your new install, then Software update to get them current.
4: If not successful then the drive also likely needs to be replaced, if so choose a 7,200 RPM SATA I w/1.5Gb/s connection.
Install/upgrade RAM or storage drive in Mac's
Repeat #3
If your getting beeping noises or "you need to restart" issues, it's likely one or more of the RAM modules is bad. Have it exchanged or swapped.
I advise good quality RAM the first time, if you buy cheap stuff it's just going back.
Don't go any further than 10.6.8 with that old machine, the performance will be terrible.

Photoshop CS2 upgrade Panther to Tiger - Help please!

Hi All,
I am doing a favour for my Aunt tomorrow and upgrading her G5 from Panther to Tiger.
She uses it mainly for Photoshop.
Is there anything i need to be wary of? I looked at the adobe web site and it seems to work on both systems, but do i need to download an update?
Any advice, greatfully received!

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