Obtaining the standard US keyboard layout file

Is there a way to obtain the .keylayout file for the standard US keyboard layout in Leopard?
Back in the 10.3 days, I created myself a personalized "US International" keyboard layout - basically a US, but with a way to conveniently create the 4 accented characters used in Estonian through a dead key. This survived the upgrade to Tiger, but for some reason, not Leopard.
Having forgotten how I did this back in 10.3, I ran across Ukelele after some Googling. Downloaded that and recreated my keyboard based on the US.keylayout file that came bundled with the download. This seems to generally work fine, except for one small thing - in BBEdit's Search & Replace dialog, the keyboard shortcut for "Replace All", which is CMD-ALT-R, does not work. On the other hand, the combo works as a menu shortcut for example in Fireworks.
So my plan at this moment is to try to obtain the US .keylayout file of Leopard and try to create my own keyboard layout based on that to see if that fixes the problem, since I'm hitting this bug annoyingly often.
Anyone know if this is possible? On a standard install, the layout resides inside the AppleKeyboardLayouts.bundle file in /System/Library/KeyboardLayouts, but unfortunately in some encoded/compiled way.

Tom Gewecke wrote:
Yes, it does. That's the reason I'm thinking that there's something amiss with mine.
Does Leopard's own Estonian layout have problems that make you prefer a custom version?
It's not the Leopards's, it's the Estonian layout itself - it has [] {} positioned in such uncomfortable places that makes it unusable for me to use while doing my everyday work - coding. That's why I created myself a US layout with a dead key that let's me make accented characters used in Estonian (õäöü) easily, but still use the comfort of the US layout.
I see the Ukelele author is aware of the issue with working from the new system layouts but not found a fix. You might want to ask your question about that shortcut in the little forum at the bottom of the Ukelele page (or at BBEdit) as well.
I talked to BBEdit and ended up with "if you figure it out, let us know too" Will try the Ukelele forums as well.

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Screenshot
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