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I have transfered music from my Jukebox2 to my Zen vision by doing a mass transfer i.e. clicked on all music of course it took a couple of hrs to do, some of the music files went into folders by artists then album and a lot of them went straight to the root directory of the Zen (very annoying, and was part of the problem?for?the other post I put up), i deleted all of them and just tried to do an artist at a time however all the songs went to the root directory again, so now I have found that only a few songs from each album has been stored in the Zen correctly and I have to compare each albums songs and do a tranfer that way skipping all duplicates, a very long task there has to be an easier way or a fix for this problem.

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The Zen vision and other newer MP3/Video players are MTP devices.
This is a change from older style MP3 players that where just a flash device that plugged in, and when you copied files you copied them to a FAT6/32 file system.
With the newer devices the MTP protocol "tells" the device about the file and recommends where to store it.
But ultimately the computer is issolated from directly accessing the file system on the device.
(Personally I think this was done as Microsoft has started to enforce their FAT file system patents, and the media players wanted to get away from using a FAT file system.)??What does this mean:? Well it means you see the issues you are seeing now.
Depending on how you are "viewing" the media player device sometimes you are actually seeing a representation of the directory structure on the multimedia device, and other times you are seeing a "view" of how the device "thinks" you want to see your content.
If you don't have any ID3 tags on music, it often "appears" to be in a root folder when the music is viewed/listed on the device, as the system doesn't know where to put the file in the "virtual" view of the file system.
If it is tagged with artist/album etc....you tend to see the Artist/Album/Song view. Many of the media transfer applications try to "cook the books" and force the music into specific folders, or modify tags to maintain a standard view of the music on the device.
Unfortuantly this means that if you try to transfer content using two different tools "Creative Mediasource Organizer" vs. "WMP" you can end up with duplicate files as discussed in other threads. What can you do about it:Use the Creative Media toolbox tool to clean up the audio tags for yoru files, or at least the ones that don't seem to be getting "put" into the right place.
Unfortunatly I have not found an easier way of really taking care of this, and the same problem occured on my sansa as well as my Zen Vision M. So I know its not a creative labs specific problem.
The only way I have been able to get consistant organization and view s of files is to clean up the artists/album tags prior to transfer to the device, and?always use the same media transfer application. I would check out the file tagging on the files that are not getting put into the correct directories, and my best guess would be they have partial or incomplete tags that don't include the full artists/album/title information.