One Message, Call multiple IDOCS in PI 7.1

Hello SDN!!
We are trying to implement a scenario and curious if anyone has done this. We are looking to have one message exposed to another system, which will be mapped and sent to four different IDOCS on the same system. From some blogs it seems this really can't be done except by BPM. Is this the case, and if so, are there any good tips to do the most basic BPM to have this scenario complete? (Also all the documentation seems to be in 7.0)
Cheers
Devlin

Hello from the first response mapping without bpm it states it is not possible with IDOC
Messages that result from the split in a mapping-based message split are sent using one AE. So only adapters running on the AE are supported. In particular, this means that target IDOC message splits are not supported since the IDOC adapter is not part of the AE.
The other two blogs are nice, but wrong direction, instead of collecting IDOCs I was hoping to have one message split out to 4 IDOCS,
Cheers
Devlin

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