Optimal way to run Snow Leopard in limited fashion on Mini 2011??
Been browsing ways to run SL on new Mac Mini 2011. Have one on the way as replacement for 2009 mini running 10.5.8. I have an external firewire drive running Time Machine in one partition as well a 2nd large partition with little on it. For most of what I do, Lion and the new machine will be a great upgrade, but I still want to run Quicken 2006. Don't want to go to the hassle of trying to get SL on the internal drive of the new mini. Could I just update my current 2009 Mini to SL, back every thing up in TM, do a carbon copy of the SL system on the "unused" Firewire HD partition and the just boot up the new Mini from the external drive when I want to use Quicken? Just want to figure out the optimal way to do this without messing up my new machine when it's fresh from the package. Thanks for the advice in this and all the previous posts.
I haven't seen any tips on how to do this yet, but if you get really stuck, you can always run Snow Leopard Server under Parallels.
Typically when the products come out, they can't be downgraded to an earlier version of the system than what they came with. You could always try to see if you could find a Mac Mini 2010 cd, boot to it, then use an external drive to install that system to it, and see if it can boot your new Mac Mini.
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Snow Leopard on late 2012 Mac Mini
I need to run Snow Leopard on late 2012 Mac Mini in order to use PPC applications.
How can I install Snow Leopard on out-of-the-box Mac Mini?
Please advise.There is no "perfect" solution to your problem.
There is a thread on this forum about how to get the 2011 Mac Mini to run Snow Leopard with amazing work by Newfoundglory:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/17829389#17829389
Installation of Snow Leopard Server is actively supported by all of the virtualization companies. While it sold originally for $499 from Apple; you can now find it for about $125 or less on eBay.
Installation of Snow Leopard client is not actively supported by any of the virtualization companies (with the sole exception of v4.1 of VMWare Fusion, which is now hard to find for obvious reasons and then can NOT be upgraded or this capability is lost).
These practices by these companies are a part of the common Urban Myth that the Snow Leopard EULA prohibits the virtualization of Snow Leopard in Lion or Mountain Lion.
I have posted detailed instructions on how to install Snow Leopard into Parallels at this link:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1365439
While it is not as easy to install as Snow Leopard Server, it is certainly doable and many successes are cited in that thread. If you decide to go that route. let me know over on MacRumors and I am happy to help you out!
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Is there a way to down grade my Mac Pro 5,1 firmware so it will run Snow Leopard?
If so will it still run Lion? I believe this machine is the same hardware that ran Snow Leopard 6 months ago. Brand new Mac Pro 5,1 two months old.
HURRAY!!! Houston we have Snow Leopard!!
FatMac your post of the firmware data got me digging deeper.... To sum-up
Prior to the death of the old Mac Pro1,1. I was in the process of re-building my emergency boot disks.
As a result my Snow Leopard Emergency Boot Disk (SL EBD) was a fresh 10.6 install.
The old MacPro died before I was able to update the SL EBD to 10.6.8. This I of course forgot.
The new MacPro would not boot from the old MacPro hard drive (10.6.8). (It must have gotten taken out in the crash). And obviously would not boot off of the SL EBD.
Initially Apple told me that the new MacPro would run SL. But later conversations with tech support emphasized that it would not and it was standard practice to not make new machines backward compatible.
I assumed I was done-for.
Thanks to FatMac's firmware info, I investigated deeper and found my SL EBD was only 10.6.
The 10.6.8 combo updater will not run from Lion.
Now if I could somehow boot into Snow Leopard so I could do an update.
I stumbled across a Carbon Copy Clone sparse image of my old MacPro 10.6.8 start-up disk that I had made DAYS before the crash and burn of the old MacPro. (Am I lucky or what?)
CCC'd the old sparse image on to a spare hard drive, restarted & Bingo! I was running Snow Leopard!
Ran the 10.6.8 combo udater and updated my Clean Snow Leopard install. Now I have a virgin copy of Snow Leopard to boot from.
I guess I can toss out my Leopard 10.5.6 Boot disk.
Now I need to make a sparse image of the virgin Snow Leopard boot disk so I can re-install it at anytime in the future.
Anyone know how to burn an 8 Gig sparse image onto to several DVD's for archiving?
FatMac, the screen capture was the old fashoned way... I pointed a camera at it.
Thanks to everyone for their contributions.
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Is there a way for my macbook air (running Lion 10.7.2) to access an external hard drive on my Imac (running snow leopard 10.6.8) specifically for Iphoto and itunes?
Yes. For those two applications specifically there is sharing. This presumes both computers are on and connected to the same network.
In iPhoto, enable sharing by (on the iMac) going to the iPhoto menu > Preferences > Sharing > check Share my photos. You can either share the entire library or only selected albums. Now on your MacBook Air, in iPhoto, go to the same preference pane and select Look for shared photos.
iTunes has something similar. In the iTunes menu > Preferences > Sharing > check Share my library on my local network. On the other computer, look in the left column for SHARED and select the iMac. You can now play that music on the MacBook Air.
There are other ways to share files but for those two applications this is the simplest way.
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Is there any way to clone a machine using boot camp running WinXP. The Mac side is running Snow Leopard. I want to clone a newly set up machine on to a number of machines in a student lab. I am wanting to clone both particians
AFAIK, there's no app that'll clone the Mac and PC volumes so you can restore them. System Image Utility.app or Deploy Studio for Mac and Ghost for PC are needed. See these for starters:
http://clc.its.psu.edu/Labs/Mac/Resources/blastimageconfig/
http://blog.macadmincorner.com/
http://lists.apple.com/archives/System-imaging/ -
Just downloaded FACETIME on my 4yr. olf Imac running Snow Leopard. When making a call to my friend's Imac all works correctly going both ways. When my wife calls me via Facetime from her Ipad, I cannot click on "accept"- not there? When called by the Imac (newest), the "accept" or "reject" radio button appears for me to click and connect. On my wife's Ipad the two radio buttons always appear when a call actiivates Facetime and comes on?
There is nothing I can find in "Preferences" in Facetime to turn that on or off. I suspect it has to do with having a more current operating system; that the "controls" are in the operating system? [I'm guessing] It's frustrating getting Facebook calls from several friends on Ipads! Any ideas...VFPI suspect it has to do with not having a more current operating system
Exactly, what Apple is doing is leveraging new features only on newer OS X versions to force you to upgrade OS X to 10.7 or later.
What they don't tell you is 10.7 or later will NOT run your PowerPC based software, some of it you can't get Intel versions like for perfectly working printers, scanners and games etc. So it can be a very expensive OS X upgrade to 10.7 or later with third party software.
http://roaringapps.com/apps:table
Also they don't tell you is the risk in bricking your machine if the update goes badly, so you have to have AppleCare in case that occurs so it's on them to fix it. Else your paying money to replace the logicboard or buying a new machine prematurely.
A four year old machine can't have AppleCare, it's only good for 3 years from date of purchase new.
Your machine came with a boot hard drive, it's usually got about 4-5 years of life on it, then it needs to be replaced.
Also they don't tell you the newer OS X version has more abilities and features that causes your machine to slow down in performance, especially on older machines.
Also they implement new, idotic and extremely fustrating new user interface features in a arbitrary "you take it or leave it" manner with little or no fall back method.
So upgrading OS X is a gamble on older machines that otherwise would likely work perfectly fine for the next 5 years if one didn't need to have to mess with it.
Since Snow Leopard has slightly over 25% OS X version market share, your still good for security updates etc for the next few years if you just want to stay where your at and be happy.
OS X 10.4/10.5 need to upgrade, 10.6.8 ok still
The Lions are, well, not so welcome due to Scott Forstall retard UI issues, OS X Mavericks 10.9 is likely going to fix things a bit better.
But basically what is occuring is Apple is trying to force a faster hardware upgrade cycle with the more expensive products by leveraging features on the smaller devices that expire sooner.
Apple is a hardware company that leverages whatever it can to get you to buy more hardware, it's why they are as rich as they are. -
I have an old Imac G4 from 2003. I would like to start using it again, however it is so out of date and runs too slowly. What are my options to update it? I really don't want to invest a ton of money - I might as well get a new one, so if there are any reasonable ways to get it to run Snow Leopard or even Lion, please help. I've also considered using a mac mini? Is that worth it either? I'm not sure which way to go here. I don't want to trash it, I feel like it can be a great computer if updated.
Presumably it is running tiger 10.4.11?
It may be able to run Leopard 10.5:
Leopard system requirements:
http://support.apple.com/kb/SP517
But that is as far as the old PPC Macs can go, and Leopard can cost up to $200 on Amazon. -
IS THE SITUATION HOPELESS
I used Target mode to transfer files to a new i7 iMac running Snow Leopard 10.6.8 from an older Dual core Intel machine (EMC 2105) also on 10.6.8. but originally Tiger 10.4. The operation was successful and I ejected the disk icon from the new machine and powered down the old machine. When this was restarted the next day there was a grey screen with flashing Mac symbol alternating with a 'no entry' sign and occasionally a question mark.Keyboard and mouse were unusable so k inserted the original instal disc (No.1 for 10.4. with installer 1.0.4) which came with the machine in 2006 in an attempt to boot from this. The ensuing window said this was not possible and now it cannot be ejected.I have tried everything ! It offers Disk Utility and other options like Terminal but that doesn't work either.I 'repaired disk' and that was pronounced o.k. None of the various keystrokes at start up will work, and the computer will only offer the installer disc continually.The only option would seem to be is to erase the hard drive completely from the disc in the machine.I don't want to do this as there is still material which I need to recover. I think the drive has in some way been corrupted by using it in target mode, and I don't know if there are any other options to try.
Please tell me how to get this disc to eject !Graham Giles wrote:
Have you seen this type of problem before? I think it could be a serious issue for anyone in a similar position.
No; but then, I've not had occasion to use TDM. I've been using firerwire drives for over 10 years, both FW400 and FW800, with no issues except a bit of instability using a B&W G3 machine.
TDM should be safe. Using cautious, manual copying of files from the Target machine to the Host machine should not result in unexpected loss of files or damage to the Target drive's directories. It should behave exactly the same as if it were an external (to the Host) firewire drive.
• I don't suppose there is anything I can do to 'put back' lost items from a separate Time Machine drive which has an up to date backup on it.
There is probably a way to do that - seems to me that's one of the reasons for a Time Machine volume.
On the other hand, if the Time Machine volume is rigidly linked to the now-absent OS on the original drive, there may be no way to effectively access the files in the TM archive.
I know that using a cloned drive would work well in this instance.
I have no experience with Time Machine, so perhaps someone who has will chime in with suggestions.
With the machine in TDM with the other machine, have you tried running Disk Utility to see if you can effect repairs to the drive? -
Purchased a used macbook pro with Mountain Lion. My old Mac runs Snow Leopard is backed up to Time machine. How do I register the operating system to me and how do I use Time Machine to move my files to the new used computer?
If you look at the User Tips tab, you will find a write up on just this subject:
https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-4053
The subject of buying/selling a Mac is quite complicated. Here is a guide to the steps involved. It is from the Seller's point of view, but easily read the other way too:
SELLING A MAC A
Internet Recovery, and Transferability of OS & iLife Apps
Selling an Old Mac:
• When selling an old Mac, the only OS that is legally transferable is the one that came preinstalled when the Mac was new. Selling a Mac with an upgraded OS isn't doing the new owner any favors. Attempting to do so will only result in headaches since the upgraded OS can't be registered by the new owner. If a clean install becomes necessary, they won't be able to do so and will be forced to install the original OS via Internet Recovery. Best to simply erase the drive and revert back to the original OS prior to selling any Mac.
• Additionally, upgrading the OS on a Mac you intend to sell means that you are leaving personally identifiable information on the Mac since the only way to upgrade the OS involves using your own AppleID to download the upgrade from the App Store. So there will be traces of your info and user account left behind. Again, best to erase the drive and revert to the original OS via Internet Recovery.
Internet Recovery:
• In the event that the OS has been upgraded to a newer version (i.e. Lion to Mountain Lion), Internet Recovery will offer the version of the OS that originally came with the Mac. So while booting to the Recovery Disk will show Mountain Lion as available for reinstall since that is the current version running, Internet Recovery, on the other hand, will only show Lion available since that was the OS shipped with that particular Mac.
• Though the Mac came with a particular version of Mac OS X, it appears that, when Internet Recovery is invoked, the most recent update of that version may be applied. (i.e. if the Mac originally came with 10.7.3, Internet Recovery may install a more recent update like 10.7.5)
iLife Apps:
• When the App Store is launched for the first time it will report that the iLife apps are available for the user to Accept under the Purchases section. The user will be required to enter their AppleID during the Acceptance process. From that point on the iLife apps will be tied to the AppleID used to Accept them. The user will be allowed to download the apps to other Macs they own if they wish using the same AppleID used to Accept them.
• Once Accepted on the new Mac, the iLife apps can not be transferred to any future owner when the Mac is sold. Attempting to use an AppleID after the apps have already been accepted using a different AppleID will result in the App Store reporting "These apps were already assigned to another Apple ID".
• It appears, however, that the iLife Apps do not automatically go to the first owner of the Mac. It's quite possible that the original owner, either by choice or neglect, never Accepted the iLife apps in the App Store. As a result, a future owner of the Mac may be able to successfully Accept the apps and retain them for themselves using their own AppleID. Bottom Line: Whoever Accepts the iLife apps first gets to keep them.
SELLING A MAC B
Follow these instructions step by step to prepare a Mac for sale:
Step One - Back up your data:
A. If you have any Virtual PCs shut them down. They cannot be in their "fast saved" state. They must be shut down from inside Windows.
B. Clone to an external drive using using Carbon Copy Cloner.
1. Open Carbon Copy Cloner.
2. Select the Source volume from the Select a source drop down menu on the left side.
3. Select the Destination volume from the Select a destination drop down menu on the right
side.
4. Click on the Clone button. If you are prompted about creating a clone of the Recovery HD be
sure to opt for that.
Destination means a freshly erased external backup drive. Source means the internal
startup drive.
Step Two - Prepare the machine for the new buyer:
1. De-authorize the computer in iTunes! De-authorize both iTunes and Audible accounts.
2, Remove any Open Firmware passwords or Firmware passwords.
3. Turn the brightness full up and volume nearly so.
4. Turn off File Vault, if enabled.
5. Disable iCloud, if enabled: See.What to do with iCloud before selling your computer
Step Three - Install a fresh OS:
A. Snow Leopard and earlier versions of OS X
1. Insert the original OS X install CD/DVD that came with your computer.
2. Restart the computer while holding down the C key to boot from the CD/DVD.
3. Select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu; repartition and reformat the internal hard drive.
Optionally, click on the Security button and set the Zero Data option to one-pass.
4. Install OS X.
5. Upon completion DO NOT restart the computer.
6. Shutdown the computer.
B. Lion and Mountain Lion (if pre-installed on the computer at purchase*)
Note: You will need an active Internet connection. I suggest using Ethernet if possible because
it is three times faster than wireless.
1. Restart the computer while holding down the COMMAND and R keys until the Mac OS X
Utilities window appears.
2. Select Disk Utility from the Mac OS X Utilities window and click on the Continue button.
3. After DU loads select your startup volume (usually Macintosh HD) from the left side list. Click
on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
4. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Optionally, click on the Security button
and set the Zero Data option to one-pass.
5. Click on the Erase button and wait until the process has completed.
6. Quit DU and return to the Mac OS X Utilities window.
7. Select Reinstall Lion/Mountain Lion and click on the Install button.
8. Upon completion shutdown the computer.
*If your computer came with Lion or Mountain Lion pre-installed then you are entitled to transfer your license once. If you purchased Lion or Mountain Lion from the App Store then you cannot transfer your license to another party. In the case of the latter you should install the original version of OS X that came with your computer. You need to repartition the hard drive as well as reformat it; this will assure that the Recovery HD partition is removed. See Step Three above. You may verify these requirements by reviewing your OS X Software License. -
I made a bootable disc on an external hard drive, with Yosemite on it. I am running Snow Leopard on my iMac. How can I open the Yosemite disc from the desktop on my iMac? Does the external hard drive need to be connected to my iMac by firewire to do that?
kahjot wrote:
Snow Leopard's Startup Disk pref can’t see Yosemite volumes. So the only way to switch from Snow Leopard to Yosemite is to do what Niel mentioned. Doesn't matter whether it's connected by USB or Firewire, although performance via FW would be faster.
Are you saying that Yos/10.10, as a volume located in a mounted external drive won't appear as an option in Snow Leopard's Startup Disc, in Sys Prefs? I've never heard this one before. AFAIK any mounted volume, regardless of OS, should appear there. I would think that, if it appears in the Boot Picker/Startup Manager it would also appear and could be booted to from Snow's Startup Disk. I can't test this myself, since I don't have Yos. Is what you are saying documented somewhere? -
Problems syncing iCal btwn iPod Touch and Mac running Snow Leopard (10.6.8)
Last fall I purchased an iPod Touch 32 GB, now running 6.1.2 iOS. I have an iMac 2007 running Snow Leopard (10.6.8). I was looking forward to being able to sync my many iCal calendars and take it on the road with me, so that I could make appointments and have them then be available to me on my Mac. I have synced using usb cable, and can get contacts, music, apps synced just fine: but the Calendar has been rather choosy about what it will sync. Sometimes it will give transfer to the iPod all the appts on one calendar (for example, Medical, which lists all my medical appts) and sometimes it will only give me some of those, with no apparent pattern as to why some are transferring and some are not. Other calendars never sync at all. In the beginning I was able to make an appt on the iPod and have it transfer to the Mac,but it stopped doing that within the first month of purchase.
I have spoken with Apple Care twice on this topic, and both times the conversation ended with the saying they would have to send this up to someone more knowledgeable, who would assuredly get back to me. I have not received any contact from their supervisors/other departments to work on this. The first Apple Tech Support person thought it was due to the new iOS, and assured me they were working out bugs on that, but further updates have not addressed the issue.
Most folks seem to think the best solution is upgrading to Lion/Mountain Lion and syncing through the Cloud. But I *like* Snow Leopard, and what I've heard/seen about the newer operating systems isn't making me want to jump on that bandwagon unless there's really no other way around it. I've even seen some problems syncing calendars through the Cloud.
Has anyone found a solution for this that allows me to continue to run Snow Leopard?
Many thanks.
AProblem fixed. I have 3 wireless mice connected to my Mac Mini through a USB bus, and started to get conflicts, disconnected all of them, re-connected my Apple bluetooth mouse and it all snapped back in to place, also didn't help that earlier, my wife caught the cat walking across my keyboard. That problem solved by closing off the office when I'm not there, and cat expelled from the area.
Everything working as normal. -
I downloaded and installed Lion on an external hard drive using my laptop which is running Snow Leopard I have now decided that I want to install Lion on my Laptop, but when I go to the App store and click on my purchases it will not download again
Thanks Dirk,
Tried your suggestion various ways but it had no effect the download button was still greyed out and the install button would not activate will keep trying to find a solution. I dont want to boot from the external hard drive that has Lion on mainly because it is a usb HD and the connection to my wireless modem slows the connection rate and downloading would take about ten hours -
mpeg video file won't open in quick time player on my macbook running snow leopard.
works fine on iMac running mountain lion.
any ideas?HI,
If iChat is Open and your think Accounts/Screen Names are logged in then go to the Window Menu
This should list the accounts that are logged in with various keystrokes ( Apple/CMD ( or ⌘) and a Number) shown next to them.
Using these should get the Buddy list "back".
It is possible to Hide the Buddy list and then Quit iChat.
iChat will then "remember" where the windows were eve if this was Hidden.
Can you confirm that after reinstalling or restoring from Time Machine with possibly an Earlier Version you have Downloaded the COMBO version of OS X 10.6.8 and "run the COMBO" (Installed it - again) to update iChat ?
It is possible the text chat Window is also Hidden on double clicking a Buddy.
The easiest way for this to happen is to use a second Display and drag some windows to the second Display.
iChat "remembers" where you last had Outgoing Chats so Audio and Video windows will be where you left them as will Text Chats.
Incoming Chat Invites are normally in set places unless there is a chat already open to that Buddy.
With Windowing issue like this is sometimes pays to delete com.apple.ichat.plist itself (on it's own) and restart iChat (this plist holds the window positions amongst other things)
8:49 PM Monday; February 27, 2012
Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"
iMac 2.5Ghz 5i 2011 (Lion 10.7.3)
G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
Mac OS X (10.6.8),
"Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images." No, Seriously -
How to I run Snow Leopard, Mountain Lion and Windows 8 on my new iMac
I just bought a new iMac. My goal is to set up 3 different partions to run 3 different operating systems (Mountain Lion, Snow Leopard, and Windows 8). The reason for this post is because when I attempted to do this same thing on my old iMac ( except I was running Lion instead of Mountain Lion) I was able to create a partion that would run Snow Leopard (so I could run Final Cut Pro 6.0.6 on a more stable platform), however I totally "hosed" my old Bootcamp partition running Windows XP. The iMac won't even bootup in Bootcamp anymore. It is just a black screen and it says something about it not being a bootable drive and to insert a bootable disc.
So I need to know the best way to do this, and I want to avoid having the same problems with my new iMac that I had on my old one, especially since I have a freelance job starting next week and my client is sending me licences for software that I will need to run on Windows 8.
Thank you in advanceUse the Boot Camp Assistant to install Windows 8 and a product such as VirtualBox, VMware Fusion, or Parallels Desktop to run Snow Leopard Server in emulation. That iMac model isn't capable of being booted into Snow Leopard.
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Run snow leopard AND mavericks
Is there a way to have older OS's on a machine? I just got a new iMac and it came with Mavericks. Now none of my games work because it doesn't support "PowerPC" games. On Snow Leopard they worked just fine. Not that I play them often but every now and then I'd like to play Age of Empires, Age of Mythology, etc... I won't even get started with Sim City 4.
ThanksParallels will run Snow Leopard Server with no troubles... and (if you go through a WHOLE SERIES of convoluted steps and make a specially modified ISO or DMG of it) Snow Leopard. Same with VMWare. BootCamp is for Windows only.
Also, if your machine is old enough to take a Snow Leopard install on the Mac HD, (it would have to have come with SL), you can partition your Mac HD and install Snow Leopard on one partition, Mavericks on the other.
I had a G5 iMac with a 500Gb HD and I had OS10.3, 10.4 and 10.5 ALL installed on it in separate partitions.
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