Oracle 8i vs SQL Server 7 or 2000

Can anybody provide a link or information about what is the best choice to choosing Oracle 8i or SQL Server? I want a technical answer not based on market share or bias.
I have been an oracle DBA and developer for 5 years. Reading up on SQL Server,it seems very powerful as well as Very cost effective compared to Oracle 70% cheaper in some cases.
I am currently researching the back end and front end tools needed for a internal Application system:
20Gig Minimum sized database
80-100 Simultaneous Users
Database server on NT4.0/2000
Any information would be very helpful
Please email to [email protected]
and/or post info.
Thanks

To balance the equation a little bit:
well, here goes the technical difference between sql svr and oracle8i db server:
1. SQL Server has much more rich, intuitive development tools. I find the Oracle tools a bit antiquated and clunky.
2. "control file management is there in oracle. >> BUT NOT IN SQLSVR." Never had the need to "manage files" from the DB, so I'm not sure of the point here.
3. You can manage partitions in SQL Server.
4. Oracle is tied to Java whereas SQL Server is more VB friendly and has JScript support.
5. SQL Server built extensions to TSQL (like PL/SQL) to support direct return of XML in a very simple manner. I'm still swinning through
6. "Operating System authentication is there in oracle. BUT NOT IN SQLSVR." This is just plain wrong. You can authenticate at the OS or DB level in SQLServer.
7. SQL Server does replication including merge replication.
8. Building data warehouses, mining, datamart, MTS, DSS, OLTP is heavily supported in SQL Server.
9. SQL Server introduced the self-tuning database making the administration very simple.
10. SQL Server supports clustering, warmbackups, etc.
11. I can show you several ways to backup/restore and all are very fast.
12. SQLServer2000 has all of the development features of Oracle (and then some) for a fraction of the cost.
13. Oracle's high-end features are better and more complete, and it works on more platforms.
My choice as a developer in a Win2000/NT type environment is SQL Server hands down. Big companies with lots of data have a tougher choice. I think Oracle is more "big iron" and high-end admin friendly, and SQL Server is more developer, self-maintaining, and pocketbook friendly. I depends upon what's important to you.
ALL ABOVE INFORMATION IS BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE WITH SQL SERVER FROM 1996 TO PRESENT.
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