Org Model Related

Hi ,
I have rather a question regarding ord assignment. I understand the hierarchy while creating the ord model is as below.
head company->co code-> sales org->sales office---> sales group.
Our business requirement is to have sub group to Sales Group.
Now as per my understanding we can not have any sub group to sales group in CRM. please correct me if this is possible and how? and if this is not possible what could be way out??? we are pulling org model from ECC.
regards,
Dhruv

Sir,
Thanks for the information. My doubt is whether is it possible to replicate the same to ECC or vice verse i.e can you assign sub group to Sales group and replicate to CRM as it is?
Also I need more understanding of what you have suggested: "*If you want to buidl some logic also on those, one possible way would be to read relationships between then. For example you would read the linked org.unit to sales group org. unit. And then it would be up to the coding, what you want to do with it."

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1. We created the org model in CRM 5.0. But, the client changed there mind and want to use R/3 as the system of record and want to use ALE distribution for copying the initial and delta changes of the org model from R/3 to CMR. My question is what are the implications of turning the ALE distribution ON after the CRM 5.0 org model is already in place? Or is there a way to get rid of the CRM 5.0 org model and then just run the ALE distribution?
2. Can additional attributes be assigned to the org model in R/3, e.g. Transaction type or would this additional data need to be maintained directly in CRM?
3. Are there effective dates in the org model in R/3?
Thanks for your help.

Sir,
Thanks for the information. My doubt is whether is it possible to replicate the same to ECC or vice verse i.e can you assign sub group to Sales group and replicate to CRM as it is?
Also I need more understanding of what you have suggested: "*If you want to buidl some logic also on those, one possible way would be to read relationships between then. For example you would read the linked org.unit to sales group org. unit. And then it would be up to the coding, what you want to do with it."

Tables for ORG model

Hi friends
Could any one please tell me the table names which stores the ORG model and position and Job.
Earlier reply would be appreciated
Thanks in advance
Rao

In three steps you can retrieve the BP number(s) related to an Org. Model position.
[1]
Positions are registered in HRP1000:
OTYPE = 'S' (Position)
STEXT : description
[2]
Relations between position and persons are registered in HRP1001:
OTYPE = 'S' (Position)
OBJID = HRP1000-OBJID
SOBID : link to person-ID
[3]
Relations between persons and BP numbers are gistered in HRP1000:
OTYPE = 'CP' (Person)
OBJID = HRP1001-SOBID
SHORT : BP number
STEXT : First and Last name of Person

Tables which stores org model in CRM

Hi All,
Which tables stores the org model or the sales area in CRM.
KRK

Hi there,
The tables that stores the organization model main information are HRP1000 and HRP1001.
For working with information that relates the org.model with sales area, I normally use static methods of class CL_CRM_ORGMAN_SERVICES.
Check if this class may help you a little more in your needs.
Kind regards,
Garcia

No assignment to org model in PPOME possible

Hello,
When I try to assign in the org model/PPOME (ECC6.0) a person to a position, the system allows that for some persons u2013 for some not. If not, the message u201CNo entry found, 5W800u201C is issued. If I would try to create the relationship A/008 via PP02, the system issues u201CValidity period of record not within validity period of P 0000XXXX, Message no. 5A039u201D.
Can anybody please explain me whatu2019s going on?
T770S0 is maintained in the following way:
PLOGI ORGA X    Integration Switch: Organizational Assignment
PLOGI PLOGI 01 Integration Plan Version / Active Plan Version
RHINTECHECK for personell no. 0000XXXX: all 12 (time-related) records of IT0001 are wrong (error) and the report suggests:
a. Check whether the person is marked in open processes
--> This seems not to be the case
b. Check your organizational assignment, either in infotype 1 or in the organizational structure in the above mentioned period.
--> I think this is also not the problem as org unit and position (PLANS, STELL) are both empty in PA0001.
I am new to HR-module, please explain what is missing, Thanks,
Angie

Hi,
thanks for your answer. Regarding the questions:
> How did you get the employee records into PA0001?
The employee records were transferred from another system into my system via ALE. In the source system the records were created via an interface (I assume). In the source system OM is not used.
> What about the emplyees that you can assign to a position? Do they have a position in PA0001?
No, they donu2019t. All records havenu2019t a position assigned in PA0001.
> Can you find other differences between the employees that work and the ones that don't?
There is only one difference for the employees who donu2019t work: In PA30 on IT "org. assignment" is field personnel area two times displayed with two different values, even that it is the same field:
On the top of the screen:             P0001-WERKS, screen number 0100.
Section enterprise structure:     P0001-WERKS, screen number 2000.
From PA0001-table I can see that these employees have changed their personell area in the past (in the source system). Those records were transfered into my system via ALE, too.
> Check dates to make sure that your employee is active within the dates you try to assign him.
The employees are active in the related period.
Please advise. Thanks,
Angie
Edited by: Angie012 on Feb 14, 2011 9:48 AM

Position texts in org model

Hello all,
Can someone suggest a function module that retrieves the position information for a user in SRM's org model? The information is shown in PPOSA_BBP, when double clicking on a position (objec type "S") and on the basic data tab below. There are two fields related to label "Position" (above label "Job"), such as "PURCHASNG,SX" and "Supervisor, Purchasing", and I would like to get those two fields (or at least the second full text) programmatically.
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You can first use the FM "BBP_OM_STRUC_GET_POS_FROM_USER"to get the position ID for the user.Then using this position Id,you can get the details for the text/description from the table HRP1000.
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Org Modeler 3.0 : Can't load scenario

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I'm on OrgModeler 3.0, with DB2. I tried to create a scneario and load it. In the application, it looks like it is able to create but it can't load the scenario. Here's the log. Does anyone have any idea? It looks like it is related to database. Perhaps authorization? database settings?
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Org model by State & Zip code - ORGMAN_7 - set default if no entry

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Hi Experts
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Listing all Ogranisation Objects under one org model

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I would like to create a list of organization(s) created under one org model. I had searched for Organization model related tables , I could get all organization objects in table HRP1000 , but here I am having Ogr Objects other then my Organization Model as well.
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Missing Business Attributes in Org Model

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