Outbound idoc types in XI

I was creating partner profile using we20 in XI to send and receives idoc of type ORDERS and ORDRSP.  In the outbound parmtrs section I am not seeing ORDERS type. I clicked the + sign under the outbound parmtrs, it opened a new page to create a outbound paramets. I did not see ORDERS message type, so I created a message type called ORDERS and ORDRSP using we81. When I came back, I do see the message type I created. Now, I need to select the basic idoc type in the outbound options but I am not seeing ORDERS or ORDERS05 to select. Why isn't XI have the basic IDOCs for ORDERS.
Am I missing something?

Hi,
WE81 is the transaction for creating Logical Messag types in SAP R/3. Since XI is one of the R/3 product, you have an option to create the message types.
normally, Partner Profiles are maintained for Business communication in R/3 using EDI media. I am not sure, if at all XI will be used as a business partner as it is a middle layer kind of environment giving an interface facility to R/3 to the outside environment.
Coming to your question, XI need not to have all the message types/IDOC types as we see in R/3. IDOC Type definitions will be downloaded into XI for making it available for data transmission using the transaction IDX2 and is also known as IDOC CACHE.
To be able to help you out, let us know your scenario in which you are using XI as a business partner.
Further, Default Outbound parameters will not be available when a partner profile is created. You have to assign the business rules to it so called MESSAGE TYPES, IDOC TYPES, PROCESS CODES, RFCDESTINATIONS/PORTS, PACKET SIZES, MESSAGE CONTROLS. etc.,
What have you done? You have created a message type ORDERS/ORDERSP thru WE81, but no IDOC types are created.
<u>Normal flow:</u>
<b>MESSAGE TYPE-->IDOCTYPE, PROCESS CODE
IDOC TYPE --> SEGEMENT TYPES</b>
<b>IDOC records are of three types. 1)Control Record holds the Sender/REceiver info, data header etc.,
2) Data record holds the data or body of message
3) Status record to hold the message status pre and post transmission.</b>
All these makes a full cycle and is not an easy job to do buddy.
I am sure, nobody would want to create these in XI.
Let us all know what you were trying to achieve.
Good Luck,
Srini.

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