Output drops on cisco link connecting to F5 Loadbalancer's management port

On a connection like below:
Cisco 6509: gi x/y <<-->> F5 BIGIP LTM: mgmt (Management Port)
We observed incrementing packet drops on the F5 BIGIP mgmt interface.
Also, at the cisco end, incrementing output drops were observed.
tcpdump (packet capture) on the F5 BIGIP's mgmt port show brodcast packets/ multicast including the HSRP hellos being received from the cisco device. It is an expected behaviour that, F5 will reject any packets it cant understand (including the cdp, hsrp and other broadcast), and this will cause the packet drop counter of F5 BIGIP's mgmt port to increase. (F5 TAC acknowledged this behaviour)
Will this cause the output drop counter at the cisco interface to roll up?
Note: On the cisco interface, i do not see any other errors, also utilisation on the link is very minimal.
Thanks
Sudheer Nair

Hi, this is probably late, but the software counters for output drops on these types of switches (3750's, blade switches) are not reliable.
What you need to check is "show platform port-asic statistics drop" for a reliable drop counter on an interface. This will give you the hardware counters
https://tools.cisco.com/bugsearch/bug/CSCtq86186/?reffering_site=dumpcr
Switch stack shows incorrect values for output drops/discards
on show interfaces. For e.g.,
--- show interfaces ---
GigabitEthernet2/0/5 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 4294967163
Conditions:
This is seen on Stackable switches running 12.2(58)SE or later.
Workaround:
None.

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