P35 Plat, Q6600 B3, Stock HSF and temp problem

So I noticed today that my stock temp runs about 50, 49, 47, 47 at idle. I was running Prime95 and after only about 30 seconds the temps were 71, 70, 67, 67. !!!!! I have a P180 case with 4 120mm fans running at med speed. Also, I used Antec's Silver Thermal compound.
I thought with a stock cooler these chips would run about 60c under load. Is it likely I have a bad CPU?

@stromm:
I just remembered that someone posted a screenshout of his Q6600/B3 core temperatures under full load on the German MSI Forum a little while ago. He was using stock cooling as well. Maybe this is a way to get a comparison.
Here is the thread: http://www.msi-forum.de/thread.php?threadid=32892&threadview=1&hilight=&hilightuser=0#post267732
Here is the screenshot:
He said the screenhot was taken with 4 instances of some distributed computing client (TSC?) running in the backround, one on each core. He also mentioned that when he runs an Everest Stability Test his core temps climb up to about 75 to 77°C. As I said before, the shutdown temperature (TJunction) is about 15°C higher than on a Core 2 Duo (+17.6%) and I am sure you have to apply the same percentage to the core temperatures as well. It is often said, when E6x00 core temps are discussed, that everything under 60°C is an optimal and safe value. For a Q6600 this margin has to be raised to around 70°C at least, because it is a Quad-Core that will in any case run a little hotter than a C2D. This said, I don't entirely agree with what qyx said in the previous post. (no offense, of course)
In any case, I believe it is a good idea to consider a better cooling solution and maybe exchange the stock cooler with a better and more efficient device. However, I don't think your temperatures are that abnormal.

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I guess manufacturers don't just let you change a multiplier anymore??
Disable EIST in Cell Menu and you should be able to do so.
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turned on the option that enabled DOT for CPU and PCI (don't know if I should have,)
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Clear CMOS with main A/C power cable removed from PSU and load "Optimized Defaults" in BIOS after that.
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