Packet Loss Causing Game Lag

For the past few days I've been experiencing severe lag while playing an online game. The ping is normal, but the game stops responding or its response is delayed to such an extent that it's impossible to continue playing. My friend attributed the problem to the packet loss that Verizon customers have been experiencing. I'm curious as to when this issue will be resolved, as it's extremely annoying and has prompted me to consider switching to a different internet service provider.

Step one: Visit http://www.giganews.com/line_info.html and post up the Traceroute the page shows, if you wish. Be aware that your non-bogan public IP Address will show up. It might shown up as the final hop (bottom-most line of the trace) might contain a hop with your IP address in it. Either remove that line or show only the first two octets. What I'm looking for is a line that mentions "ERX" in it's name towards the end. If for some reason the trace does not complete (two lines full of Stars), keep the trace route intact.
For example this what I saw when I was using Verizon
news.giganews.com
    traceroute to 71.242.*.* (71.242.*.*), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
    1 gw1-g-vlan201.dca.giganews.com (216.196.98.4) 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms
    2 ash-bb1-link.telia.net (213.248.70.241) 39 ms 7 ms 7 ms
    3 TenGigE0-2-0-0.GW1.IAD8.ALTER.NET (63.125.125.41) 4 ms 4 ms GigabitEthernet2-0-0.GW8.IAD8.ALTER.NET (63.65.76.189) 4 ms
    4 so-7-1-0-0.PHIL-CORE-RTR1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.20.137) 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms
    5 P3-0-0.PHIL-DSL-RTR11.verizon-gni.net (130.81.13.170) 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms
    6 static-71-242-*-*.phlapa.east.verizon.net (71.242.*.*) 32 ms 32 ms 33 ms
Step two: Can you provide the Transceiver Statistics from your modem?
#3 If you don't know how to get that info:
a) What is the brand and model of your modem?
b) If you have a RJ-45 WAN port router connected to it: What is the brand and model of the RJ-45 WAN port router?
#4 If you have a RJ-45 WAN port router connected to the modem, even if you know how to get the Transceiver Statistics from the modem: What is the brand and model of the RJ-45 WAN port router?
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Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 Sam-PC.home [192.168.1.5]
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The router I would imagine to be okay for the first bit, but for the sake of things, reboot the router and also try giving your ONT a reboot by unplugging it from AC power and then disconnecting the battery. Re-connect it after 30 seconds by connecting the battery and then plugging it back into AC power.
Also, see if the packet loss takes place during specific times of the day. If your router has a WAN connection over Coax (rather than an Ethernet connection) to your ONT, also consider checking your MoCa speeds based on this FAQ. Poor MoCa speeds can suggest shoddy coaxial causing some issues, too: https://secure.dslreports.com/faq/verizonfios/3.2_MOCA#16569
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I have a reason and a solution to your lagging issues with Minecraft or Skype.
Reason
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Solution
Download a different communication program such as Ventrilo, Mumble or Team Speak 3, either host your own server for it or buy one.
Unfortunately, this is the only solution you have because Microsoft are not going to re-code Skype and neither is Notch going to re-code Minecraft.
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Hi,
I have been having a problem with Verizon FIOS Internet AND Phone since Thursday afternoon.
Basically I have intermittent outages several times a day of 15-40 seconds where my download doesn't work, but upload still does. This happens on BOTH my phone and internet. Therefore it's not my router or computer equipment causing the problem.
Here's what happens:
- On the internet: I have a periodic download problem where I can receive no data for about 15 - 40 seconds. After that it returns to normal
- On the phone: If I'm on the phone at the same time then during that period of internet loss I also can not hear anything that the person I am talking to says. However they can hear me just fine (ie. download only problem)
I have been talking to Verizon technical support and they have blamed my router and ONT. I have tried switching off the router, and using a different one. Also they have replaced the ONT twice.
* This problem occurs on BOTH the phone and internet at the same time. This clearly suggests the problem is not in my own house.
In fact I know exactly where the problem lies. I did a traceroute to google below:
Tracing route to google.com [74.125.113.106]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1     4 ms     1 ms    <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2     5 ms     4 ms     4 ms L300.NWRKNJ-VFTTP-122.verizon-gni.net [74.105.157.1]
3     9 ms     8 ms     7 ms G2-0-0-1822.NWRKNJ-LCR-08.verizon-gni.net [130.81.133.156]
4    11 ms     8 ms     7 ms P15-0.NWRKNJ-LCR-07.verizon-gni.net [130.81.30.148]
5     9 ms     6 ms     7 ms so-5-0-0-0.NWRK-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.29.8]
6     7 ms     6 ms     7 ms 0.so-7-0-0.XL3.EWR6.ALTER.NET [152.63.19.177]
7     9 ms    10 ms     9 ms 0.so-1-0-1.XL3.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.0.213]
8     9 ms     9 ms     9 ms TenGigE0-6-0-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.22.41]
9    33 ms    31 ms    35 ms google-gw.customer.alter.net [152.179.72.62]
10     8 ms    11 ms    10 ms 209.85.252.215
11    18 ms    17 ms    16 ms 209.85.249.11
12    31 ms    29 ms    29 ms 209.85.241.222
13    30 ms    29 ms    29 ms 209.85.241.207
14    41 ms    39 ms    34 ms 209.85.243.1
15    27 ms    27 ms    29 ms vw-in-f106.1e100.net [74.125.113.106]
Trace complete.
Then I pinged each device for hops 2-4. When the problem occurs the first one in the hop - 74.105.157.1 - runs fine. The second device - 130.81.133.156 - times out, and all other devices further down the chain time out. This clearly suggest that the device:
130.81.133.156 has major problems.
I have mentioned this to tech support, but they have no way for me to send them logs. Apparently the support technicians at Verizon can not be trusted with even the most basic of tools like email and the web. They also shield me from the NT (Network technician), who is so special that even the tech support guys are only allowed to text chat with him, not actually talk to him. I have enough logs here to clearly show what the problem is.
The latest from tech support is that they are sending yet another guy by my house tomorrow to witness this problem firsthand. Then he will call support that will text chat with the NT, and MAYBE they'll start thinking it's not me.
My main question here is: "How do I get Verizon to believe it really could be a problem in their own network?"
Here are some threads from last year that explain exactly the same problem I'm having. So it wasn't just me:
http://forums.verizon.com/t5/FiOS-TV-Technical-Assistance/Verizon-FIOS-intermittent-connection-drops...
http://forums.verizon.com/t5/FiOS-Internet/Intermittent-Network-Timeouts/m-p/28138
One person said Verizon finally fixed it by replacing a PON card. I'm not sure if this is the same problem as that though.
I am an avid Starcraft player and this is driving me crazy because I am getting dropped from my games all the time. Also phone conversations suck when there's these big lags where I can't hear who I'm talking to.
I have had Verizon FIOS internet for 3 years now and this is the first problem I've ever had with it. But I'm starting to get majorly frustrated at how long it's taking to resolve the problem.
Here is a sample of the ping logs I was talking about for different devices all at the same time.
Device 2 in the Trace Route:
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=78ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=57ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=59ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=126
Device 3 in the Trace Route:
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=253
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=253
Device 4 in the Trace Route:
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=252
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=252
Any help, thoughts, suggestions, etc would be great appreciated!
~David

I understand your logic, but you have not eliminated 74.105.157.1 as the problem. It could be allowing packets out, like outside callers hearing you, but not allow them back in. Since you have results pinging out, trying ping back in. Use this packet loss tool. You do not need to catch it when it's not working because this tool will ping your IP address (and all the hops in between) for up to 7 days. You will easily see when packet loss is occurring.
If it can successfully ping 74.105.157.1 when the problem occurrs, then 130.81.133.156 is not the issue. This may not help dealing with the personalities at Verizon, but it will help definitively knowing which device is the issue.

Constant Packet Loss

Hello, over the past month I have been recieving terrible quality over ventrilo (a VOIP program), terrible lagging in online games, and even when browsing the internet I often have to refresh a web page several times to get it to show up. At first I thought it was just my internet having an off week so I waited a while, but the problem continued. I'm not too good with routers, modems and internet connections etc, but I talked to some friends and did some googling and was pointed towards packet loss as a possible cause, so I ran some tests and here are the results I got, which seem to indicate a lot of packet loss. www.pingtest.com sometimes reports up to 50%.
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I'm using a BT home hub (I really don't know what model and I can't find anything in the home hub program or on the physical hub that tells me the model, it's white and a couple of years old though.)
I really have no idea how to find the cause via the info, since as I said I don't really know a lot about it. Would appreciate any help in finding the cause so I can call BT, or even better find a fix I could do myself.

Took several tries to get the speed test to complete, left it running for an hour at one point :
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What state are you located in? Twitch in general has been having tons of issues that they aren't owning up to. I've had a ticket open with them for a month now showing that there is a ton of issues on their end.
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As a gamer, you'd know the difference between 20ms and 250ms, which is what I feel after 6pm pst. Verizon Support has not owned up that it is their issue so far and the support I've reached out to from the gaming companies can clearly point out that the issue is with the Verizon data center at different hops.
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I just purchased the Airport Extreme AC after upgrading to 802.11AC devices in the home. On its own, the Extreme AC performs flawlessly - consistent connections, max speed my ISP provides, no-lag, no studdering, no packet loss. I was dissapointed with the range of the device at the far ends of my home, so I set up my previous generation Airport Extreme to extend the network.
It extends the network fine, speeds are about half of what I get at the source, but the issue is that when it is part of the network, I experience packet loss, anywhere from 3% to 8%. I've tested this multiple times, unplugging, testing, replugging, testing. It happens both wirelessly and through ethernet. The issue is no question caused by the previous gen Airport extending the network.
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Setup:
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Don't be afraid to use techincal terminology to help me. I can follow and understand the majority of it, as I'm pretty into all of this.

I'm not aware of anything that has changed in the 802.11ac version of the AirPort base stations that would induce the packet loss that you are seeing with an extended network over using an earlier generation. I am assuming, of course, that you are extending another Apple wireless router ... correct?
Typically I would recommend that you would review the placement of the extending base station to be sure that it is in the optimal spot to reproduce the signal with the greatest amount of bandwidth possible. (Ref: This AirPort User Tip)

50% Packet Loss on VoIP/Video calls

HI,
When making VoIP or video calls I'm getting up to 50% packet loss. I'm struggling to find out what is causing the problem. When I make a video call I have, at the same time, run speedtest.net and it is still providing adequate bandwidth so I know that is not the cause. The packet loss seems to come and go so it will be fine for a few seconds and then goes up to 50% for a few seconds and then keeps cycling.
-Dave

Ash wrote:
It's dropping pings, you can see that clearly from the above. It's intermittent. Whilst a drop in pings isn't the definitive sign of packetloss, the way in which it's doing it is.
If it was going to drop it through flooding it simply wouldn't respond at all after the first few. It it was configured to not respond, it simply wouldn't.
Pings to any external source - (not to the device itself) are also failing intermittently. This indicates that a device along the traffic path is having issues.
I can screenshot a nice disconnection plug in games, but there's no real need.
The evidence is there if you know how to interpret it. This needs to be investigated.
A question for you then!
What happens when your router gets repeated pings from the same source?
Does it not block them as a possible DDOS attack?
The more gamers try this tactic the worse their traces will get & it will more than likely also affect other gamers interested in low latency through these same nodes!
Check the timings between the true source & destination by all means but please do not
unnecessarily stress individual points on the main ISP network backbones!
"I have this awful feeling someone is watching every move I make (one of my pet hates is router location tagging)." Marvin (A paranoid Android)

High Packet Loss, High Ping and Slow Connection Ov...

Hi There,
I have been a customer with the BT unlimited broadband package for a little under two years and up until recently have had no real issues with the service. This was until around 3/4 weeks ago I noticed that the internet was very slow and certain online games or applications like Netflix would lose all of its quality or stop completely. At first I thought nothing of it and simply reset my BT Home hub router, and sure enough everything was back to normal. However after around 2-3 hours of moderate use (gaming online or watching Netflix) the problem surfaced again.
Now I am lucky if I can get the entire way through a 40 minute TV episode before the quality drops and/or the service requires buffering. I have already contacted BT via the helpline and the service lady ran through the obligatory steps (turn off, wait 5 minutes, reset the home hub etc.) but she failed to understand that although rebooting the home hub does alleviate the problem initially, the symptoms of a slow connection, high packet loss and high ping always return within an hour.
Four the last couple of weeks I have been trying to investigate the problem myself and I have done the following things:
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Tested for interference from neighbours wifi using inSSIDider office (it wasn’t, operating on different channels)
Switched every device that requires internet off apart from the PC (no difference)
So with all that in mind I am fairly confident that it is nothing within my house that has caused a significant reduction in internet quality.
Now I have tried my best to display the problem I am having by recording the connection quality for the last 24 hours. The table below represents the condition and quality of the connection after leaving it a period of time without resetting:
ADSL Line Status
Connection Information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
0 days, 21:52:14
Downstream:
12.96 Mbps
Upstream:
910 Kbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
6.7 dB / 5.4 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
29.4 dB / 16.4 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
20.4 dBm / 12.6 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
987297 / 12745
CRC Events (Down/Up):
254 / 15268
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up):
2437 / 252630
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
189 / 36430
And here is a result of the ping and packet loss during this time:
Now I immediately reset the home hub after running that test and ran the test again. These are the results I a achieved within 2 minutes of internet connectivity:
ADSL Line Status
Connection Information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
0 days, 00:01:05
Downstream:
13.77 Mbps
Upstream:
910 Kbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
6.4 dB / 5.6 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
29.4 dB / 16.4 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
20.4 dBm / 12.6 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
159 / 12746
CRC Events (Down/Up):
1 / 15573
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up):
0 / 252639
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
1 / 36438
Even within the time it has taken to compose this page my internet quality has nose-dived from the previous result above to the following:
Connection Information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
0 days, 00:52:31
Downstream:
13.77 Mbps
Upstream:
910 Kbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
6.1 dB / 5.4 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
29.4 dB / 16.4 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
20.4 dBm / 12.6 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
14544 / 12749
CRC Events (Down/Up):
14 / 15584
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up):
72 / 252647
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
10 / 36449
What is causing this poor quality in connection and what can be done to rectify the problem?
Thank you for your response in advanced.
Regards,
Richard.

Thank you for you quick reply, I have just moved my hub to the master socket again and re-run the test and I seem to be getting the same results.
ADSL Line Status
Connection Information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
0 days, 00:17:47
Downstream:
12.96 Mbps
Upstream:
910 Kbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
6.0 dB / 5.2 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
28.7 dB / 15.9 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
20.4 dBm / 12.6 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
26417 / 5
CRC Events (Down/Up):
1 / 303
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up):
31 / 11
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
10 / 36522
I have also checked if the bell wire was attached and it is not. My socket is of the new type with the inclusion of an inductor on the faceplate. My ADSL filters and modem cable already have the middle connecting pins removed so I don’t think it is a wiring problem, at least in my apartment anyway. I have also searched for problems with the exchange and they are showing green for my area. (Liverpool Central)
I have just rang the quiet line and I do not appear to have any noise on the line. However, all I have is a cordless phone and I know that is not ideal for determining noise due to the radio frequency interfering with the phone speaker.
Again thank you for you time on this issue.
Regards,
Richard

Having really high pings, packet loss and been on ...

Hi. I've been on to BT 4-5 times in the last few weeks. Everytime its the same thing I do all their checks and run the speed test. Its the same thing over and over. When i try to explain to them the problems i,m having they said your speed is within the acceptable range. I,m at a loss with dealing with BT. The customer server is terrible.
Basically the problems i,m having is really high pings. Even doing the BTwholesale speedtest my pings was usally in the 30ms range now they are 70 on average now. I play alot of online games. And Everything is unplayable. I know there is definitely something wrong. Either with the routing or some of the nodes on bt.
Today I was trying to play Diablo 3, the lag spikes was huge every 2-3 seconds jumping to 1-2k ms latency. I ran some winMTR tests and i,m having alot of packet loss. I tried to explain that to BT on the phone. But its like the dont have a clue what i,m talking about or wont attempt to help me with the issue. All game companies usally tell me ISPs are always willing to help with these problems. But BT seem to refuse to help with latency ping issues, just your speed is fine etc .
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Can some Mod please help me. I,m really losing hope with BT.

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Still facing these issues. Is BT not going to do anything about it? Here is a WinMTR test to a game server i,m playing.
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| BTHUB5 - 0 | 1132 | 1132 | 0 | 0 | 10 | 0 |
| No response from host - 100 | 227 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| No response from host - 100 | 227 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 217.41.216.109 - 7 | 901 | 843 | 18 | 30 | 394 | 20 |
| 213.120.158.234 - 7 | 909 | 853 | 21 | 25 | 51 | 23 |
| 31.55.165.151 - 7 | 905 | 848 | 20 | 25 | 51 | 23 |
| 31.55.165.109 - 7 | 905 | 848 | 21 | 25 | 49 | 23 |
| 109.159.250.180 - 7 | 897 | 838 | 20 | 25 | 63 | 23 |
| core1-te0-13-0-16.ilford.ukcore.bt.net - 7 | 913 | 858 | 27 | 34 | 57 | 33 |
| peer6-0-9-0-22.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net - 6 | 917 | 863 | 27 | 32 | 56 | 32 |
| 166-49-211-240.eu.bt.net - 7 | 913 | 858 | 28 | 32 | 59 | 28 |
| 213.248.82.249 - 7 | 909 | 853 | 0 | 33 | 93 | 29 |
| ldn-bb2-link.telia.net - 7 | 909 | 853 | 28 | 36 | 127 | 70 |
| adm-bb4-link.telia.net - 7 | 909 | 853 | 32 | 37 | 76 | 34 |
| adm-b4-link.telia.net - 6 | 917 | 863 | 34 | 38 | 65 | 35 |
| No response from host - 100 | 227 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| No response from host - 100 | 227 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| No response from host - 100 | 227 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| No response from host - 100 | 227 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| No response from host - 100 | 227 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| No response from host - 100 | 227 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| No response from host - 100 | 227 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| No response from host - 100 | 227 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| No response from host - 100 | 227 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| No response from host - 100 | 227 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| No response from host - 100 | 227 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| No response from host - 100 | 227 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| No response from host - 100 | 227 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| No response from host - 100 | 227 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| No response from host - 100 | 227 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
217.41.216.109 seems to be an issue with this. Getting packet loss of 7% and the the ping shoots up to almost 400 while the average is around 30.
I,ve tried everything BT have told me, i've phoned loads and loads of times to seek help. I dont know what else to do. Pings and latency is horrible. And i dont just mean little lag. Every online game is unplayable. Webpage loading slowing or broken images .

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