Parallel updates on a user

Hello,
I'm facing a problem that some already faced (in the forum on sun.com, in 2006, http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5061281) but no definitive solution was provided...
A use case I have is to request roles for a user and for each requested role, I have potential approvals to gather.
If I allow to request multiple roles at the same time (which is the standard if using the default user form in the admin GUI):
- I have approvals sent to the different approvers (ie. adminA & adminB for role1, adminA & adminC for role2) : that's OK, that's what I want, adminA receives two workitems to approve
- I one of the approval is rejected, no matter which one (let's say adminB rejects assignment of role1), the whole request is rejected (even the assignment of role2!) and a new request is needed to assign role2 : that's not OK. role1 may be rejected and role2 approved
If I decide to modify the form to only allow one role to be requested at a time:
- I have approval sent to the approvers for the requested role
- Until the approval phase is over, I cannot launch a new request for the user. If I need to assign multiple roles, I have to wait between each role request. This would mean a user may have to wait for days before being able to have the needed access to resources!
How would you workaround this Sun IDM (sorry, Oracle Waveset!) design:
- Renaming the update task is not sufficient since the userview is checked out before the approval process is launched. Isn't it? Therefore, I cannot check out the view until it is checked-in after the approval is done
- modify the update user standard workflow (or another standard process somewhere) to differ the view checkout only once the approval is done. But I'm not sure I can replace it with a getView to compute updates and approvals so easily... I fear side-effects...
Do you have any (good) idea regarding this issue? I'm sure I'm not the only one facing this currently...
Thanks for your help!
Edit: I made a wrong statement about why renaming is not OK:
If I try to rename the task adding a timestamp for instance to make the name uniqueif I launch a new request for the user, things will not be OK:
-- say the first request is approved first => user is updated according to first request. When second request is approved, the role assigned during the first reqeust will be un-assigned (the user view generated at the time of the second reqeust did not include the first role assignement yet...
-- say the second request is arrpoved first => same kind of effect .
second
Edited by: bcarlier on Nov 4, 2010 2:47 PM

Hello,
no this does not solve directly my problem. I cannot use standard "update user" with "standard approvals" because "update user" takes a view as an entry (and if you provide only updates, it calculates a view at the beginning). If you need several parallel role requests, the standard "update user" prevents you from that (by saying an aupdate task already exists and if you rename the first one, the latest one being approved will overwrite previous updates.
What I need is:
- ask the requester for the changes he wants
- forward this information to my custom approvers
- upon approval, and only then, checkout the current view (so not the one at the time of the request), apply the requested change, launch the standard "update user" process without further approval.
This way, I can launch several requests in parallel having independant approval processes and having only approved changes applied to the user without the fear of discarding previous assignments.
@madhatter: I may use the split join mecanism to do parallel approval on single requests (I have two type of approvals for a single role). I'm also thinking building a custom approval object to pass to the Approval Evaluator process.

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