Pathfinder problems... CS4 (just upgraded)

There seems to be some shift in the function of the pathfinders. It only seems to work for me about half the time, other times it wont do the simplest things and spits out the message "Could not complete operation. Pathfinder result describes empty region."
Here's what it's doing at the moment:
I have a circle with a rectangle overlapping part of it.
Add: Error
Subtract:
works just fine
Intersect: Error
Exclude Overlap: Error
Minus Back: Error
The objects are on the same layer. The objects were created with the circle and box tools (so the shapes
are closed. Both shapes have solid fills using the same color model.
What gives? Is there a difference in the way it functions? Or has my software gone screwy?
Thanks!
-Ted

I have had the problem a number of times, now I'll try to track some doc specs when it occurs. Though fwiw, I
have been working in docs over 12 pages
Copying the objects to a new doc did work, so that's a work around for the moment anyhow. Annoying...
Now off to the photoshop forum and the disappearing tool shape/outline issue...
:p
-Ted
Don't get me wrong though--CS4 has many nice new things that make it well worth the price of admission.

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