PeopleTools update before or after database creation

Hi, there:
We need to create a new environment with latest PeopleTools and FSCM. The latest PeopleTools is 8.49.20. Can I install PT 8.49.20 before creating the database? Or I need to create the datbase first and then update the PeopleTools.
Thanks for any help.

The latest Peopletools version/patches is 8.49.21 :-)
And, yes, you can install the latest PT before creating the database.
Just be aware, all the Peoplesoft application 9 (I assume you want FSCM9.0) have been delivered within Peopltools 8.48, that means you'll have to upgrade your database to the latest version of the Peopletools (the one you are installing) immediately after the database creation/load. Follow the dedicated chapter in the Peopletools install guide.
Nicolas.

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