Photoshop CS4: Werden als Smart-Objekte gespeicherte Raw Dateien nicht automatisch mitgespeichert?

Moin.
Ich habe in einer Datei mehrere CR2-Dateien als Smart-Objekte eingebettet, um ohne Qualitätsverlust auf die Rohdaten zugreifen zu können (Siehe Beitrag: smartobjekte von raw dateien erstellen, um danach auf camera-raw nacheinzustellen.)
Nun habe ich seit kurzem das Problem, dass folgende Fehlermeldung auftaucht, wenn ich solch ein SO bearbeiten möchte:
"Das ursprüngliche Smart-Objekt konnte nicht bearbeitet werden, weil kein Parser oder Dateiformat die Daten öffnen kann."
Kann mir irgendwer helfen, wie ich nun wieder auf die CR2-Datei zugreifen kann?
Außerdem mache ich mir natürlich Sorgen um meinen Workflow.
Ich hatte letztens schonmal den Cache von Camera Raw geleert, da mir beim konvertieren mal PS abgestürzt war.
Kann das vielleicht auch daran liegen?
Muss ich in Zukunft diese Dateien extra abspeichern, um so etwas zu vermeiden?

Chris, if the cache is cleared, should one expect Camera Raw to develop the raw file per default settings then? Or are they kept somewhere in the PSB in the case of a smart object?
Unfortunately this isn't trivial to reproduce. One would have to move the camera raw database. Where is that stored again?
-Noel

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Werden als Smart-Objekte gespeicherte Raw Dateien nicht automatisch mitgespeichert?

Moin.
Ich habe in einer Datei mehrere CR2-Dateien als Smart-Objekte eingebettet, um ohne Qualitätsverlust auf die Rohdaten zugreifen zu können (Siehe Beitrag: smartobjekte von raw dateien erstellen, um danach auf camera-raw nacheinzustellen.)
Nun habe ich seit kurzem das Problem, dass folgende Fehlermeldung auftaucht, wenn ich solch ein SO bearbeiten möchte:
"Das ursprüngliche Smart-Objekt konnte nicht bearbeitet werden, weil kein Parser oder Dateiformat die Daten öffnen kann."
Kann mir irgendwer helfen, wie ich nun wieder auf die CR2-Datei zugreifen kann?
Außerdem mache ich mir natürlich Sorgen um meinen Workflow.
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Kann das vielleicht auch daran liegen?
Muss ich in Zukunft diese Dateien extra abspeichern, um so etwas zu vermeiden?

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Unfortunately this isn't trivial to reproduce. One would have to move the camera raw database. Where is that stored again?
-Noel

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Which operating system are you using?
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mac
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mojoimagery wrote:
Now - JJ - when you say "overlay files" - what do you mean? Because that feels like a good description for what happened.
We performed no save operation at any point during the sequence of events that ended with the image in one raw file being replaced by the image in the smart object.
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Thanks for the tip Ellir. I downloaded 5.4RC last night and it didn't have support (tested) and today official 5.4 gets released with the support. I feel lucky
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