PID and Fuzzy Logic Toolkit for students

As the thread title states. I am a student running on the student version of labview. I have a project I am working on that would greatly be benifitted by the PID and Fuzzy Logic Toolkit. Is there a way for students to get this without the $1000 price tag?
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I would talk to your school and see if they have any sort of academic discount program in place. If not, you could contact your local Academic Field Sales Engineer, whom you can find here.

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LabVIEW 2010 PID and Fuzzy Logic Toolkit

Where can I download the evaluation software for the following:
LabVIEW 2010 PID and Fuzzy Logic Toolkit
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We only have the latest version available for download and evaluation from here
I would suggest contacting your local sales representative and they can ship you a CD of the 2010 evaluation version via www.ni.com/ask
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Rob
Applications Engineer

PID and fuzzy logic toolkit

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I'm trying to create a motor position control using the PID toolkit. Is there a step response feature or another function that shows the response of the PID system, percent overshoot, settling time, etc? If not, is there a way I can create a step response using this toolkit?
thanks,
kirby

What is your setup so far?
If you are using the LabVIEW PID function and are controlling a plant, you could just change your setpoint and monitor the process variable on a LabVIEW chart.
If you are simulating it all, then there are step reponse functions that you can drop into your simulation loop like done here.
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Fuzzy logic toolkit para labview 2012

Saludos
MI problema es el siguiente, sucede que requiero de un controlador difuso y entiendo que necesito el toolkit fuzzy para el labview 2012 version student, mi problema es que el toolkit no lo encuentro para descargarlo, quisiera saber si alguien pudiera ayudarme con esto, y ademas agradecería si pudieran facilitarme algunos ejemplos para poder trabajar con el toolkit.
De antemano gracias.

Siga los enlaces
LabVIEW 2012 PID and Fuzzy Logic Toolkit Readme
http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/51A3BFD1F00C305A86257A1A00604D7F?OpenDocument#installation
Download PID and Fuzzy Logic Toolkit Evaluation
https://lumen.ni.com/nicif/us/evaltlktpidctrl/content.xhtml
Se necesita el código de activación. Pero se puede utilizar en el modo de evaluación.
Para obtener más información siga el enlace al producto.
NI LabVIEW PID and Fuzzy Logic Toolkit for Windows
http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/209054
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Fuzzy Logic Toolkit

I followed the truck maneuvering example in the 'PID Control Toolset User Manual' and tried to use the 'I/O-Characteristic' test facility. But, when I tried to run the test facility, I realized that there is no run & stop buttons in the window. By the way I did not do the exact the same things the book showed. For instance, the example uses 5 terms for one input and 7 for another one. I used 3 for both. But, I think basically I followed the most steps he mentions in the example. Do you have any idea what went wrong, or can you tell me how I can run the test facility?
Airo

Dear AdamB,
I am just wondering if you could help me a bit. I have two problems. The first one is, I'm working with the fuzzy logic toolbox from matlab. I created a .fis file with some rules from the fuzzy editor in the fuzzy logic toolbox from matlab, wich I want to run in labview, with the matlab script. How can load the fis file? I tried with the examples attached, but it didn't work.
The second problem is I have been doing some work with fuzzy logic toolbox in Matlab. The fuzzy inference system (FIS) built in Matlab environment is quite simple and straightforward. An example of the FIS in Matlab can be found in the attachment. Now I want to use the fuzzy logic toolkit from Labview to perform the same task. An example of the FIS in Labview can also be found attached. Although the FIS properties in Labview has been made the same as in Matlab, the result of the defuzzification is different. The FIS properties in Matlab are:
And method: prod
Or method: max
Implication: Prod
Aggregation: Sum
Defuzzification: Centroid
The FIS properties in Labview has been made:
Defuzzification Method: Center of Gravitiy (which is another name for Centroid)
If no rule is active: Take last value
Inference Method: Max-Min
Select form of rulebase: Normal rulebase
For instance, if the input to FIS is Matlab is -3.51, the output is 0.202. However, with the same input, the output from FIS in Labview is 0.30.
Perhaps you could help me?
Dedy
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fuzzy_test.zip ‏7 KB
deltaR5.zip ‏2 KB

Fuzzy logic controller for DC motor

Hello guys!
Can anyone help me out in giving inputs to fuzzy controller which has two input member function Error and Change in error. Is there any tool which can store the previous error and compare it with present error which gives the chane in error?

Hello,
Please look at the shipping example of Fuzzy Logic Toolkit in:
C:\Program Files\National Instruments\LabVIEW 2010\examples\control\fuzzy\Tanks with PI control\FuzzyEx Tanks with PI control.vi
This code will allow you to see how you can implement the error and rate error by using pure LabVIEW code. Now, if you have the Control Design and Simulation Module, this tool have functions that easily calculate the error and derivative for you.
Hope this helps
PS: Notice that this example is in LabVIEW 2010. The same example can be found also in 2009 by changing the number of the LabVIEW version on the path to 2009. Previous versions have this code, but they are a bit more difficult to understand. If you have previous version of LV 2009, I strongly recommend you to update to at least 2009 since on this version the toolkit was completely refactored. If you can't here is the location of the example previous to 2009:
C:\Program Files\National Instruments\LabVIEW 8.6\examples\control\fuzzy\tanks.llb\Tanks - fuzzy control PI.vi
Barp - Control and Simulation Group - LabVIEW R&D - National Instruments

How to use Fuzzy Logic Controller for transfer function in labview control and simulation loop?

I am facing problem with fuzzy PD logic controller for transfer function in control and simulation loop.
Plz Help me in this regard...................
i have attache snapshot of my program
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Hi Sankhadip,
Sorry for the late response. I was looking at your code and
I noticed that the graph scale does not start from zero. That might be the
reason why you don't see the transient in the simulation. To change the scales
simply double click on the lower limit and set it to zero. If this is not the
expected results, can you please post the expected results, so we can see what are the
differences between the results . Also, you might be using different
solvers, and that gives different results as well.
Thanks and have a great day.
Esmail Hamdan | Applications Engineering | National
Instruments

My project title is fuzzy logic controller for rotary crane. need to reduce sway of pendulum

helo. i want to ask whether my block diagram is correct or not. there is no error occured but no waveform will generate. i give the picture of my block diagram and my front panel. really need help. big thanks!
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Please look at this post for instructions in how to use Fuzzy Logic with RT. However, notice that this only works with RT, not FPGA:
http://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW/Problem-of-using-fuzzy-in-my-project/m-p/1772362#M615631
Hope this helps
Barp - Control and Simulation Group - LabVIEW R&D - National Instruments

Understanding and using Logical Components for Managed System configuration

Experts.....
I am embarking on a fresh installation of SolMan 7 EhP1 SPS25 and after a few bugs along the way, I am finally nearing the end of including the first Managed System. Somewhat related to {forum:id=10293771] I am hoping I can get some advice, but specifically with regards to Logical Components.
General question - I have a slide from SAP that shows a picture from Product->System->Instance->Logical System (client)->Logical Component. I am confused because it shows that Client 100 of a given ABAP system could be assigned to Logical Component A, whereas Client 200 of the same system could be assigned to Logical Component B. This seems wrong to me?
I am at the last step of the managed systems configuration wizard : "create logical components" and only want to ensure that I set things up to hopefully ensure that later usages (Maintenance Optimizer, etc) will handle things correctly!!!
- Our SAP landscape is not very complex
1. only ERP and EP (Dev/Test/Prod).
2. We are utilizing HR Self Service (XSS).
3. The ERP ABAP systems are on Netweaver 7.01.
4. EhP4 has been installed, however we only activated the HCM business functions. Therefore SAP_HR is on 604 whereas SAP_APPL is on 600. I think this might be driving some of the confusion in SMSY
For the DEV ABAP system I am trying to configure:
1. The system is showing up in two products : "SAP ERP" and "SAP ERP Enhancement Package" with the header data for both showing "EHP4 FOR SAP ERP 6.0 / NW7.01" and "SAP ERP 6.0"
2. Under "SAP ERP" the "product instance selection" shows only "SAP NW - Adobe Docu. Service" and "SAP ECC Server" as relevant
3. Under ""SAP ERP Enhancement Package" the "product instance selection" shows only "Human Capital Mgmt" as relevant by default. I manually flagged the development portal system as "relevant" for "SAP XSS (Self Services)"
4. The RCA DBA Cockpit system is complaining "No data available for extractor activation. Please check product mapping and Software Components in SMSY"
5. In the Managed System wizard, there is no logical component for any of the "EHP4 FOR SAP ERP 6.0 / NW7.01" selections
From what I can tell, I think this is correct:
1. Create a Z_EHP4 logical component and assign the DEV/QAS/PRD systems to them
2. Also assign the DEV/QAS/PRD to the existing SAP logical component "SAP ERP ECC SERVER"???
3. For the Solutions, my plan is to create
a. Non-Production ERP : with the dev/test erp/ep systems, but test system as the leading system
b. Production ERP with the prod erp/ep systems only
Thanks for any advice/guidance to help me avoid future problems!!
Edited by: Eric Poellinger on Jun 15, 2011 6:32 PM

General question - I have a slide from SAP that shows a picture from Product->System->Instance->Logical System (client)->Logical Component. I am confused because it shows that Client 100 of a given ABAP system could be assigned to Logical Component A, whereas Client 200 of the same system could be assigned to Logical Component B. This seems wrong to me?
Client 100 could be assigned to any number of logical components, client 200 could be assigned to those same ones or none of them. A logical component is just a grouping of systems used to accomplish some task in SolMan.
For example with ChaRM you could have 2 logical components.
ZCHARM_DEV development (100) -> QA (200) -> prod (300)
ZCHARM_SEC security (900) -> QA (200) -> prod(300)
One is used to show the path for moving development changes to prod, the other for security changes. 200 belongs to both, but 100 only to one.
Set them up in whatever way meets you needs. It looks like for you, you could just use the default one and assign your clients to the various system roles. Not all functionality in SolMan uses the logical components though.

Example of Neural Network and fuzzy logic with labVIEW

Does anyone has any kind of examples of fuzzy logic and neural network built with LabVIEW?
I am particulary interested in predicting machining outputs (cutting force, surface roughnes) starting from machining regimes (parameters such as depth of cut, speed etc.). However, any example would do ...
Thank you.

Warm regards,
Karunya R
National Instruments
Applications Engineer
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App example two851.vi ‏20 KB

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I have uninstalled all components of CC that were initially installed, 30day trial period ends on 16Oct, but somehow I am unable to return the product through the customer service thingy in My Account. Could someone please help? thanks

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Is to possible to control a motor by using fuzzy logic toolbox in Labview and motor interfaced with PIC microcontroller

sir
I am doing a PG project on fuzy logic control of robotic arm,In this first i need to write a code in LABVIEW fuzzy toolbox and interface that that code with PIC where motor is connected and a tachogenerator should be connected to motor to send speed to LABVIEW through PIC microcontroller where ADC is inbuilt in it.
Please help sir me whether it is possible to do that ,if not tell me do i require any interfacing device ,I am very new to labview

Now for this problem, Fuzzy can be easily used to control the plant. Here is the softwares that would help in this task:
- LabVIEW Full Development System (FDS) 2009 or later - The is the LV version that allow you accessing the latest Fuzzy Logic develoment
- LabVIEW PID and Fuzzy Logic Toolkit 2009 - This has PID and Fuzzy Logic functions available for you to develop your controller
- LabVIEW Control Design and Simulation Module 2009 - This is a complete set of functions that allow you to simulate and develop advanced control applications. In your case, you probably will be using this module for simulation of the DC motor.
Now, you also will need a way to read the encoder and control the voltage applied to the motor. You have several options from NI for that process. Probably a multi-function Board could help since they have digital counters and Analog Output signals. However, I can't recommend what would be best for this application, but the ideal platform is the CompactRIO platform for your application. They have a Real-Time controller and integrated Input/Output modules with signal conditioning that could allow you to directly drive the DC motor. I would advice to go to our webside (http://www.ni.com/compactrio/) and verify what this platform does. For this platform, you will also need the following sofrware:
- LabVIEW Real-Time Module 2009 - Allow you to develop you application in Real-Time for deployment.
Hope this helps.
Barp - Control and Simulation Group - LabVIEW R&D - National Instruments

Problem with Fuzzy Logic Controller Design window

Hi,
I'm designing a fuzzy inference system using the Fuzzy Logic Controller Design tool.
But when I use up to 4 input variables, the Rule Editor window is out of center and I cannot see the left parts of the antecedents.
See the attached picture.
The visualization is not movable and resizing the window with system utilities does not give any results.
Anyody can help me? Thanks!
Attachments:
Bug Fuzzy Controller Design.JPG ‏68 KB

Hello all
The PID and Fuzzy Logic Toolkit 2009 was completely redesigned.
There are new API VIs and a more intuitive user interface for creating controllers.
You can create MIMO controllers with unlimited inputs and outputs, and also modify the controller on-the-fly.
Check it out the new features and let us know your needs on Fuzzy control.
LabVIEW PID and Fuzzy Logic Toolkit User Manual
Regards,
Bruno Cesar
National Instruments

Programming fuzzy logic controller design

Hi,
please i am using fuzzy logic controller design. Inputs and outputs data are connected to an OPC server.
My question is: could i access programmatically (in the vi ) to the fuzzy logic controller design to prevent to enter in it each time that i need to change values ?
Samer,

Hello all
The PID and Fuzzy Logic Toolkit 2009 was completely redesigned.
There are new API VIs and a more intuitive user interface for creating controllers.
You can create MIMO controllers with unlimited inputs and outputs, and also modify the controller on-the-fly.
Check it out the new features and let us know your needs on Fuzzy control.
LabVIEW PID and Fuzzy Logic Toolkit User Manual
Regards,
Bruno Cesar
National Instruments

PID and Fuzzy Logic Toolkit for students

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