Popularity of JDBC to ODBC or OLEDB

Does anyone know of any statistics about the market share of database applications that use JDBC VS ODBC VS OLEDB (VS native I guess too). I don't mean for this to be a C VS Java question... but more along the lines of what is the breakdown of what percentages of database applications use to connect to the database.
- Mark

Well... I am sure Google could find you plenty of statistics but how helpful they will actually be is another matter altogether.
I think there are two problems with most statistics you will find. First of all you have to question the source. Like a study sponsored by Sun will say radically different things from a site sponsored by Microsoft. Will either one be the truth. No. It will be "somewhere" in the middle probably.
Then you have to compare apples to apples as best you can. Your question is way to broad to let that be accomplished. As a guess if I had to guess a the #1 database usage scenario ranked by total number of applications that use it I would guess that the answer is neither JDBC, nor ODBC but the PHP MySQL library.
Now does that mean PHP is better? Well in most cases no. Except in one case it may be... that case being rapid development of relatively simple websites. Occaisonally I read nonsense about how PHP is better than Java but you just can't make that kind of claim. It's like comparing a compact car to a 747 jet. If you want to visit a town 15 miles down the road yes the compact is better. But if you want to go overseas... not so good.
Being able to compare apples to apples is not always easy but the less bias the source has the easier it gets. I am reminded of the netcraft site. They collect information on the usage of different web technologies (and I think sell it) so I would say they are pretty unbiased. At any rate I remember seeing some web server stats that basically showed Linux is far and away the champ when it comes to OS's for hosting the most websites. Windows was second and various Unixy flavours after that. Well down the list was Solaris.
What was interesting though was taking the list of the top 20 or so sites by total traffic. As I recall about 75% of those were on Solaris which was a far different picture than the overall share of less than 5% Okay to be honest I can't remember these numbers for sure but the difference was striking and I would be surprised if I was off by very much and anyway I am just trying to make a point here. The point being that if you asked what is the "best" you get very different answers even from the same set of data depending on how you define best. I think it also makes a strong case that to use volume as an indicator of "bestness" is poor idea.
At any rate I suppose one could find some statistics on JSP vs ASP usage but what that actually tells you I don't know. Let's not forget that they are many, many, many applications running in enterprises around the globe that are not web based so an accounting for these is even harder.
Here is what I would suggest. Try and define better parameters for your question. I would try and look segment by segment of what the application is. Even a breakdown just by web vs non-web would be a good start. Then I would also look to examine the usage by the scale of the application. You need to seperate the little foxpro based VB apps that might sit on someones desk from an enterprise inventory and tracking system. I mean they both use databases but the usage cases are so different... well anyway I'm sure you see the point.
So get some better parameters for your question... otherwise it will be difficult to find data I think (especially that which is both web and non -web together) plus any data you do find will be relatively meaningless.
Hope this helps.

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    at sun.jdbc.odbc.JdbcOdbcConnection.initialize(Unknown Source)
    at sun.jdbc.odbc.JdbcOdbcDriver.connect(Unknown Source)
    at java.sql.DriverManager.getConnection(Unknown Source)
    at java.sql.DriverManager.getConnection(Unknown Source)
    at WigsUpdate.main(WigsUpdate.java:25)
getConnection returning driver--className=sun.jdbc.odbc.JdbcOdbcDriver,sun.jdbc.odbc.JdbcOdbcDriver@66848c--what can be done?
thank you very much

HimberJack wrote:
oh now i understand.
i got a very unknown company which supplied the ODBC driver, but they dont have java driver...
so I have nothing to do about it?The choices are find a different driver or use the one you have.
The one you have doesn't do batches.
Finding a different driver could involve the following.
- Buying one from somewhere else
- Pay someone to write one.
- Write a driver yourself.
All of those are somewhat dependent that the "unknown company" has an API that supports that. You (or someone) could also figure out the file format of the "unknown company" as well and then write one.

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