Powermac 8500 Problems

I recently tried to reinstall Mac OS 9 on my Powermac 8500 because I had been having Errors in startup. These errors were, Address Error, Bus Error, Apple CD/DVD extension Error, Apple Audio Extension Error or the login box wouldn't appear. I tried to Reinstall using my Retail Mac Os 9.0.4 Cd and kept getting tome errors. I have finally got it to install off a backup of my retail CD (it had tome errors too)(I swapped my cd drive with anoter one from another powermac 8500 after it ate my OS 9 CD) and have upgraded it to 9.1 but am still getting the Address Error occasionally and a Bus error when Disk First Aid checks if it wasn't shut down properly. I have 2 USB cards in my powermac 1 is a DSE USB 1.0 card with an Opti 82C861 Firelink chip and the other one is a Digitus Connect USB 1.1 card with the Opti 82C861 Firelink chip. It was working fine before I put in my Digitus Connect USB card last month. My computer also sometimes freezes sometimes as soon as it gets to the desktop (the seconds on the clock stop flashing)
Could this mean that my Usb card is interfering with my computer or my Scsi cable is damaged or my drives are dying.
My drives are set up like this on the fast Scsi Bus
1.2 Gig hard disk ID 0 terminated
1.2 Gig hard disk ID 1
CD-ROM Drive ID 3 terminated
Pci Cards
Slot B (middle one) Digitus Connect Usb 1.1 card
Slot 3 (bottom one) DSE Usb 1.0 card
I have a Sonnet Cresendo 300Mhz G3 Processor
4 Mb VRAM
8 8MB RAM cards
flat PRAM battery
and the av card.
I live in New Zealand
Thanks for reading this.
Message was edited by: Proxify

Could there have been a problem with the G3 processor cards, which forced the school to retire these 8500s from the fleet - or were they considered technologically obsolete? Is there any discoloration on the gold-plated pins on either or both sides of the processor card? If the card's pins aren't a bright gold color, I'd gently clean them with a soft white eraser. Be sure that all eraser shavings are blown off, prior to reinstalling the card. Another possibility is that the Sonnet card is overheating, causing the system to become unstable. I'd remove the heat sink and inspect the thermal compound, to see if it has dried up. You can clean off any residual compound with alcohol and then apply some new compound. The Arctic Silver product is reportedly better than the older, white type. The DIMMs' memory chips will have markings, indicating manufacturer and part number. If you find a variety of info when comparing the memory, it's a mixed bag. Is this 8500 just a project computer and would you want to invest any money in it, to get it working? Considering the minimal value of an 8500 with a malfunctioning G3 processor card, you might be wise to recycle it, rather than spending anything on hardware upgrades.

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System Profile
USB 0 1.4.6 No devices found on this bus.
PCI Slot C1 USB card
Card type : usb
Card name : pci1045,c861
Card model : Not available
Card ROM # : Not available
Card revision : 16
Card vendor ID : 1045
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86.357: Expert - Initializing disk based USB Expert 1.4.6
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94.592: [ 0]: USL - UIMControlEDCreate did not get lock on UIM 0
94.594: [ 0]: USL - setting status to level 3
98.917: [ 75576057]: Expert - LoadClassDriver: USBHub1Apple - calling driver initialize routine... 0
98.918: [ 75576057]: Expert - LoadClassDriver: USBHub1Apple - driver initialization completed 0
98.919: [ 75576057]: Driver - Externally powered Hub attached - power supply good 0
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Vendor : KYE Systems Corp.(Mouse
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373.869: [ 75576301]: Expert - LoadClassDriver: USBCompositeDevice1.4.6 - driver initialization completed 0
374.469: [-1744500223]: Expert - LoadInterfaceDriver: USBHIDMouseDriver - calling driver initialize routine... 0
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Release number : 1.0.5
Serial number :
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Driver name : USBHIDDriver
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365.725: [ 75576016]: Driver - Hub Driver - Set address failed, giving more time 3
365.766: [ 0]: USL - findEndpointAddr -1
365.766: [ 0]: USL - Stalling pipe 75576192
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366.083: [ 0]: USL - Stalling pipe 75576531
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369.258: [ 0]: USL - Stalling pipe 75576531
369.258: [ 75576531]: USL - Cache config descriptors failed with error 1
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369.260: [ 0]: USL - Stalling pipe 75576531
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(1) USB Support
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(3) USB Device Extension
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PowerMac 7300 Problems: Browser, Accessing Hotmail, Freezing

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hi,
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different video card (current one is radeon 8500 128mb version)
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http://www.pcreviewspot.com/reviews/misc/coolmax470/wattages.jpg
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need the corresponding data from yours
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I have an MSI P45 Platinum with 2 gigs (2 x 1 gig) running at 5-5-5-15, 1:1.2 1066/800 voltage on auto and it's passing Memtest86 tonight. I will keep iot running all night. This system was stable till I tried adding 2 more gigs for a toal of 4 x 1 gig. It will not POSt with all chips installed. I tried everything and MSI is not a big help. OCZ told me to do 6-6-6-18 at 2.1 - 2.2v and run it at 800 and maybe raise the NB voltage up to 1.4v. None of that worked.
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HELP!
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kourosh,
It did not work.
Anyway OCZ told me (via online support portal) that since the memory kits don't work together, I should contact the seller (NewEgg) and try to exchange for matching memory. I repeated my my statement in fact that they do work when mixed... just not all 4 gigs. They replied with the same comment, albeit more detailed. I repeated the fact and asked them to make it clear that they can do nothing more for me. They tod me again that since the memory kits don't work together and they past my Memtests, they are not defective so they can't grant an RMA. I repeated the fact (AGAIN) that they do work together. I am waiting for another reply. I think I am done with this company's memory for future purchases. I just want them to be straight and they can't even do that. I'd have more respect for them and prbably make future purchases if they were just straight forward. After all, Business is Business.

CD problems on B&W G3 running classic OS 9.2.2

I have a B&W G3 with Panther and OS 9.2.2 installed, and that has the original Matshita CR-589 CD-ROM drive that came from Apple. I am trying to get some "old school" games running, but have run into some problems. Panther can see the CD, but Classic does not recognize that anything is in the drive.
A quick look at the system using System Profiler indicates that the OS9 Drivers are not installed. Is there a way to get and install these drivers so that my Classic environment will see the CD in the drive? If so, does anyone know where I may find them, and how to install them in the classic environment? Am I correct in stating that I can simply place them in the Extensions folder and make sure they are turned on via the Extension Manager? Thanks in advance for any assistance.
-FormZ
G5 iMac Mac OS X (10.4.6) B&W G3, PowerMac 8500, Quadra 700

I decided this by the fact that System Profiler states "OS9 Drivers: No" in the list of attributes returned for the CD-ROM drive.
To me, and maybe just to me, the term "old school", as it relates to games on the mac, refers to games that predate OSX and that run under System 7.0 through System 9.2.2. I would consider games running on OS1, System 3, Finder 5 through System 6.0.8 as being "really old school", but those are my self imposed definitions. For others, it may mean games that date back to the Apple LisaOS, Apple IIe, the Apple I, or it may have no meaning at all.
The particular game is question is a System 9.x compatible game.
Looking at my original post, I can not see where I said that these CDs are different from any other CDs. I stated that "Panther sees the CD, but Classic does not recognize that anything is in the drive." My Classic environment does not see any CD, be it "old school" or "new school".

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When I do this it comes up in the Servers windows as Stopped. If I try to start it the error I get is
'Starting localhost' has encountered a problem
Ensure that the server is not already running or any application is not using the webserver port.
So as an experiment I changed the port to 80 because the admin page does work at http://127.0.0.1/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm
The Server window at the bottom of the CFB screen then shows a Running server.
I create a small "Hello World" index.cfm page and when I hit one of of the browser tabs, Firefox and IE in my case, I get the following error,
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There is no server configured for the project myproject to which the file index.cfm belongs. Configure a server in ColdFusion in ColdFusion server settings before you proceed.
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Thanks,
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You need to tell CFB what server CFB should use in order to preview the file.
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-Bhakti!
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FCP Problem with Firewire output to external monitor and speaker ???Help

i have a g5 powermac. the problem is when using Final cut pro 4hd. when i output my work through firewire to my external monitor and speaker i have a problem with the audio signal. Theres feedback/noise/hiss from the speakers. The firewire connects to DSR-11 vtr deck which feeds my monitor and speakers. it only happens when in FCP is set to A/V firewire output. does not happen if Video output is not set to firewire.
I Diagnosis is that it is not my dsr-11 deck or firewire i've ruled those out. The problem is either FCP software or Hardware problem with my G5
Does anyone have a similar problem. please respone, i will try to answer any respones,
Thanks
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From the firewire that feeds the dsr-11. on the output, i use s-video cable to my monitor (sony pvm-14l) and High Quality rca cables thet feed the audio to the Roland Speakers.
I've changed all wires and still have audio problem. I,ve changed my Dsr-11 deck to my camcorder and still have the problem.
If any of u guys use FCP The problem happens When I select view> external Monitor > and select firewire for Audio/ and video. I have never changed my editing habits, something just went wrong with the signal, I think its a Hardware problem with the firewire connection. I'm Going to have to bring this to a Apple Service Center In my local area one day.

Laserwriter 8500 works on OS9 but not OSX

I have a laserwriter 8500 problem. I just bought a new G5 dual and I have the 8500 pluged in through a router. I can print 'only' using microsoft word that is running on classic. whenever i try to print with any other applications that either run on classic or native on OSX I get an out of paper error. The 8500 shows the yellow out of paper light even though the laserwriter has paper. I can go to my G4 that is on the same network and print to the same printer without the 'out of paper' error.
So bottom line is, for some reason running OSX, the ONLY way I can get the 8500 to print and not give the out of paper warning is to be priniting out of only one application, MS Word reunning on classic.
What gives? Obviously it is not the printer, as I can print in one application running classic, and I can print from another (G4) mac on the same network... What is really odd is that the printer shows lights indicating it is out of paper, and it does not change the green (OK) light to yellow until after I request printing on OSX in any application other that MSWord running on classic.
I would really appreciate so help

This printer must have one port of every description! Which of the many methods of cabling are you using to talk to this printer? Are you plugging and unplugging, or is the same cabling set-up used in each case?

How can I re-install my old SCSI card (2906)?

I think I should have asked for guidance here first but...
I'm trying to re-install my old SCSI card in my G4 (Dual 1 GHz - 1.5 GB Ram, 10.5.8), it worked fine a few years ago (under previous OS) but I can't seem to get it running now. The Profiler sees the card (Adaptec 2906) but says there is no driver. So I downloaded a driver from the Adaptec site (2930 - they say its the same as the 2906 driver), installed it, connected an old ZIP drive as a test - and yes I set the auto termination. Restarted and got a Kernel panic! - retried and got another panic!
Un-installed the driver, cleaned the cashes and reset permissions with Onyx, so I appear to be back to a stable system.
Anyone have any experience with SCSI cards? I would greatly appreciate any/all suggestions. I do have some experience with computers [Apple II+, SE30, IIFX, 8500 PowerMac, but this old head just can't get this figured out.
Thanks in advance!

I thought I'd post this as an update and general information for others who might have a similar problem.
I have my old original Scsi card installed (Adaptec 2906), and it does work under 10.4.11 (my alternate/back-up system). I installed just "Adaptec78XXSCSI.kext" in the system/library/extensions folder and as long as I start my scanner before I boot into 10.4 everything seems to work just fine.
It's a bit of a pain to have to switch systems whenever I need to scan something, but I can live with it.
I tried to install the drivers in 10.5.8 but that doesn't work at all. If I install the whole Adaptec2930 package, I get a Kernel panic almost immediately. If I install just the "Adaptec78XXSCSI.kext", the card is not recognized. From what I've read on various sites is that 10.4 is the last OS that supports SCSI cards (or at least this Adaptec card). If someone has better/more information, I would appreciate hearing from them.
I contacted Adaptec tech support, but I have not as yet received a reply
In the end, things have worked out reasonably well. I have the use of my old reliable Agfa Scanner (Vuescan is great!), and my old Powermac 8500 is still functional enough for me to recover all my ancient tape archives.
An interesting little twist: Part of my incentive to re-install the old SCSI card was to recover my tape archives via Retrospect. But I discovered while searching for the drivers that Retrospect no longer supports the Adaptec cards, and hasn't for some time, so I could not have used it on my G4 anyway!
Now I'm saving my pennies for a new 27" iMac

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