PPM & PDS

Hi, all
what is the different between PPM and PDS ? what their usage in different scenario
pls advice

Hi
The following planning functionalities are supported by the PDS but not by the PPM:
u2022 ECM for PP/DS (including the use of phantoms)
u2022 Subcontracting in SNP is fully integrated with R/3
u2022 Direct transfer of SNP-PDS from R/3
u2022 Use of object dependencies in APO
u2022 Order-BOM and WBS-BOM
u2022 Rapid Planning Matrix (in combination with R/3-DIMP)
The following planning functionalities are supported by the PPM but not by the PDS
u2022 Maintenance in APO. Since it is neither possible to maintain the PDS in APO nor are there any
BAPIs, it is only possible to use the PDS in combination with R/3.
u2022 Push-Production
u2022 Container resources
u2022 Alternative modes for the PDS can either be created using alternative sequences or resource classification
but not both.
u2022 Time-dependent parameter (can be transferred to the PDS using a Badi)

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