Price Determination Date
Hi,
Client is creating PO w.r.t contract which is set as "5-GR date" for Price control and the same has been set in vendor master. There is no price control set in info record "No Update". But when i check PO in EKPO table, system shows price control as 5 for some PO's and showing empty for some PO's, due to which the value is showing wrong during GR. Can you please tell me from where the price control is determined in PO? and why it is showing 5 for some PO and not showing that for some PO.
Regards,
Prasath J
Hi,
This is because of info record effect!
Check info record number available in your PO( in t.code:ME23N) and set deletion flag to info record number for material and vendor in t.code:ME15 and save.
Now deactivate automatic info record effect in purchase order, refer discussion
PO Unable to auto determine Outline agreement
Go for creation of new PO form your contract condition.
Regards,
Biju K
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Price determination date category problem
Hi.
while Scheduling Agreement without any reference the price determination date category set as "5" "GR Date" by default. But we want to use the price date category 2 "Delivery date" but it is not updated in SA. Even if in vendor master and purchase info record Price date category is 2 "Delivery Date".
And also field of price date category is non editable.
Pls help
Dhiraj BhaskarHi
Check the Customizing for the document type of the scheduling agreement (spro->MM>purchasing--->scheduling agreement ---> define document types).A price determination only occurs during the creation of the scheduling agreement if the 'time-dependent conditions' indicator is not set.
If you want 'time-dependent conditions' indicator is set then it will always be 5. and you cannot change. price date category is editable only for time independent conditions. Thats why it is always editable in PO.
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Antony -
Price determination date control in Scheduling agreement (ME33)
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Dear SAP chams,
I have one doubt at the time of scheduling agreement creation. I am creating scheduling agreement trough t'code ME33. In the same, Select line item, go to item data, go to Additional data. Here the field Pr. Date Cat (Price Determination (Pricing) Date Control) contains the value "5" (i.e. GR date). I want to change this value. How can i change this determination ??...
Helpful answers will surely be awarded by points.
Thanks and regard,
Tarpan Vadaliya
Edited by: Matt on Feb 27, 2010 10:47 PMHi
Price determination category 5 cannot be change in scheduling agreement if your document type is time dependent. (See config spro>mm>purchasing>scheduling agreement>define document type. In that you will see a tick for time dependent condition)
If the config tick is removed then you can change price determination to any other option.
Regards
Antony -
Purchase Info Record - Price Determination (Pricing) Date Control
Dear Guru,
Can i get some advice here for the "Price Determination (Pricing) Date Control" (Pr. Date. Cat ) setting which is maintain in the Purchase Info Record --> Purchasing Organization Data 1.
Can anyone advice me on the purpose and where is the configuration?
Thank You very much,
Regards,
Chee WeeHi
If you maintain Pricing date category in info record then different pricing date can be considered for a certain material supplied by a particular vendor.
If you maintain in the Vendor master then the same price determination date will be considered for all the vendors materials.
For example,
If you want to maintain two pricing for the materials with different periods then you can use the validity periods according to the requirement.
Validity periods,
1. 01.11.2010 to 31.12.2010
2. 01.01.2011 to 31.01.2011
Regards,
BK -
Hi ,,
Can any one explain me ,,if you select date of price determination as "GR date".. what exctly this price determination takes place.
As per my understanding ,, it will pick the latest price available in purchase order at the time of GR .,, ie,,, if the price changed later,, while doing GR system will determine the last price on the date of GR..
I would like know what actualy the system does if the price determination miantainted as any one of the below options,,in vendor master or in Info record,,or in Purchase order.
Date of Price Determination
1)Purchase Order Date
2)Delivery Date
3)Current Date
4)Manual
5)GR Date
I am not find any help on this ,,plz suggest me if you know some thing.
HI Stephen,,
Could you please respond on this issue.
Thanking you in advance.
Regards,
Sudhakar babu.Hi shakir,
As per your example... in the PO price determination is maintained as "GR" date... it means while doing goods receipt in Feb,,, system will determine the price as 20 and Gr/ir will be posted for that ..
While posting invoice in march, system will determine the price from GR and post 20 to Vendor A/C.
Is this correct?
If price determination maintained as other options like ,,, current date ,,,in which price system will capture ,,,while doing GR ,, and invoice posting.
Any help regarding complete functionality of each of the price determination dates.
please give some link if possible.
Thanking you,
sudhakar -
Price Determination (Pricing) Date Control in Info Record
Hi,
Can anyone help me with the use of
Price Determination (Pricing) Date Control = 5 GR Date in Purchasing Info Record
Does this help in the following case
I have a PO for an year
Each month vendor delivers @ different amount and it is known only @ the time of delivery(with the bill)
We are ready to accept the price from vendor
So if i set Price Determination (Pricing) Date Control = 5 GR Date in Purchasing Info Record
and change the price in Info Record every time before GRN for that particular date,
will it pick the new price or the PO price
We are doing GRN wrt PO.
Thanks and Regards
sapmmlearnerHi,
Please Help
From what Esther posted i think my requirement can be met, but its not working
My requirement is
PO : 1000 qty, @ 10 inr per pc, for a year
first delivery they send 250 @ 10 inr per pc , GRN done wrt PO
invoice is posted
@nd delivery say after 4 months
they send another 250 this time @ 12 inr per pc
we are accepting the price too , we do GRN wrt PO but 10 inr is adopted
but we need to do it at 12 inr per pc
I am asking whethr this can be done by maintaining '5' in price determination date contol in info record and editing the price(earlier it was 10 , now am editing it to 12) each time before GRN, will this price be adopted during GRN.
(is there any other alternative)
note: am editing after PO and each time before GRN
sapmmlearner -
Purchase Order Date for Price Determination
Hi Experts,
I need to update the Price Determination Date every time the PO Statistical Date changes, so that it is equal to the PO Statistical Date. Which BADI or User Exit should I be looking at?
ME_Process_PO_Cust, ME_PO_Pricing_Cust, ME_Check_All_Items are what I'm looking at now. Table EKET and EKPO hold the two fields SLFDT and PRDAT.
Does anybody have an idea which BADI I should use?
Points will be awarded to the helpful answers.
Thanks,
KSolved the problem using BADI Process_PO_Cust in method Process_Item
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Price determination as per delivery date
Hi All,
I have created a PO in which the PO is picking up the dalivery date as the current date. when i change the delivery date as some other date there is a message saying Delivery date changed (new price determination process may be necessary).. I worked with my ABAP guy and solved this problem and now the PO is not picking the current date.
Now, the user wants me to configure how to determine the Price for different delvery dates.
That is if i change the delivery date to some other how to check if the PO is picking the price determined by that delivery date.
I checked the info record and the validity date is 12/31/9999. and this is the message iam getting
Delivery date changed (new price determination process may be necessary)
Message no. 06484
Diagnosis
If the price determination date is the delivery date and other conditions are valid on the new delivery date than those that are valid on the old one, the price is no longer valid.
Procedure
If this is the case, and you wish to see the price that is valid as at the delivery date, carry out a new price determination process.
And u said to define on the basis of which Date of Price Determination system should select the price. where can i define the price determination for delivery date. This is the first time iam working on such issue of price determination.
Thanks,
SameerDear Sameer
There is no relevance of pricing date with delivery date. For information, while creating sale order in VA01 after giving your sales area and execute, there is a field "Pricing Date" in Sales tab and the date will flow into this field by default the date on which you are creating sale order.
So irrespective of your delivery, your invoice pricing will be effective based on this field. Unless you change the date here, your pricing condition will not change, if you have a different pricing in VK11. Of course, you can also change the pricing date at item level for which click on "Goto -- Item -- Sales A".
thanks
G. Lakshmipathi -
Price Control Date as GR Date in Purchase Order?
Hello Friends.
We have a requirement where we need to take the price at the time of GR. I have tried to set the Price control date as GR date (5) in Purchase order, Info Record and even in Vendor Master. Unfortunately, it is always taking the price as P.O. price and it is not taking the price which changes between P.O. Release and GR date.
I made several P.O.'s and did GR for the same with less quantity. Then i made changes in the Inforecords and again did GR for the same P.O. It took the price from the P.O. only. Albeit I set the Price determination date as GR Date in P.O., Inforecord and vendor master too. We have requirement of not changing the P.O. once it is created and we dont want to change the price in P.O. once we do one GR for a particular P.O.. We need to re-determine the price at the time of GR without changing the price in P.O. as it require several authorizations.
I need to know if I am missing any setting in P.O., Info-record, Vendor master or any changes required in customizing. Or I need to install any enhancement package for the same.
This is a very critical requirement and hence request MM consultants to provide their valuable inputs.
Regards
Gurcharanhow did you test? did you always create new POs after your changes in master data? Or did you just expect that the existing PO would automatically get to know about such changes?
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Price Determination (Pricing) Date Control - Purchase Order
Hi,
We are exploring the Price Determination (Pricing) Date Control in the Purchase Order.
Clientu2019s requiring is, correct me if it is a wrong requirement:
We have created Tax Codes:
C2 - CST 2% valid from 01.04.2010
C3 - CST 3% valid from 01.04.2010
We have created a purchase order with Tax Code C2 - CST 2% on 30.03.2010 as we are in doing back log entries. Since the tax code is valid from 01.04.2010 only , the purchase order is not displaying the Tax Code Value .
Now we are doing the Goods Receipt on 01.04.2010, the system will not pass the entry for the CST as at time of GR, the System picks up the Tax data from the Purchase Order.
Now we want that the System should pick up the Data at the Goods Receipt, not from the Purchase Order. Some one advised me to use put GR Date in Pr. Date Cat. Under Item-> Condition Control tab. We are able to view the Pr. Date Cat by changing the Screen Layout of ME21N.
We want to know what use of the same & under what condition is, we use this.
Our suggestion:
1. We are of the view that we should create the Tax Codes with Valid Date from 01.01.2010 (not from 01.04.2010 as currently maintained)
2. Or since we are doing the back log entry, we should create all the Open Purchase Orders dated 01.04.2010.
Is this the correct way which we are suggesting?
Please note that we are dealing with Excise Materials also?
Please guide.Thanks for the reply,
While testing the same, I also encountered the somewhat same problem.
You are suggesting that we should change the Tax Code Valid From Date.
What do mean by the follwoing:
Pricing date category "GR date" can't be set in PO if price is entered manually (with condition type PBXX). This also means manually entered conditions at Po will not be used.
Regards, -
i want to create org data profile in service scenario, with price determination from sales org, distribution centre , can any one help me with these
IF I CREATE SERVICE ORG WITH SERVICE SCENARIO ORG DATA PROFILE,
MY PRICING IS NOT GETTING DETERMINED AS IT IS LINKED TO SALES ORG AND DISTRIBUTION CHANNEL THROUGH PRICING DETERMINATION SO HOW TO DO THE CUSTOMIZATION FOR THIS SITUATION
WITH REGARDS,
SATHISHHi Satish,
Please assign the org det. rules to org det. profile with Sales and Service scenarios and then assign the org. det. profile to transaction type. The below screenshot is just for your reference.
Hope it would fix your issue.
Regards, -
***Price Determination (Pricing) Date Control
Hi Experts,
The client requirement is that it has a contract maintained for different months with different prices. PO is created for a certain date and price. But they want to do the GR with a later date may be after 5 months for the service they have received. They want to post the GR in the open period but the price should be picked up depending on the contract price maintained for that date in past.
In contract and in Vendor we have a field called Price Determination (Pricing) Date Control which determines which date is to be used for price determination (pricing) purposes.
My issue is if i use manual which is # 5 in contract and in Vendor still when i do the GR i am getting the price with the present posting date or the present date which has been maintained in the contract. Where should i maintain the manual date on GR so that my contract price gets picked up.
Thanks for your support.
MavrikDear Mavrik,
The price always follow the date maintained in the price date field in the condition control tab at ME21N during
creation of the PO. If you want during GR, the price follow a specific date, please kindly check and change
again the date in the particular PO at the same tab and at the condition tab, click the update button after
change the date.
Best Regards,
Ian Wong Loke Foong -
Price Determination (Pricing) Date Control in PO
Hi,
We have feature in PO for price date control. Following are available in drop down:
1. Purchase order date
2. Delivery Date
3. Current date
4. Manual date
5. GR date
no control.
I did F1 to find details how to use this functionality but there is not much explaination to it except with GR control.
Also below to it there is a field Price Date.
1.Please explain in which scenarios these all are used and what is the accounting impact of it.
2. Is there any study material to take deep understanding of this concept.
Regardshi,
The pricing date is the date defined by date-dependent pricing elements such as conditions and the foreign currency rate.
As we know that the prices of foreign currency changes day by day..so if you post your PO today and make IR some other day then there may changes in prices from date to date...
so this field is used to ref. to date for the price applied...
can see the link for more details:
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_03/helpdata/EN/93/7440fa546011d1a7020000e829fd11/frameset.htm
hope it helps....
Regards
Priyanka.P
Edited by: Priyanka Paltanwale on Sep 25, 2008 6:24 AM -
How the Purchase Price determination process works in sap-mm?
Hi,
Can anybody tell in detail or have step by step document on Purchase Price determination process?
Thanks,
PradipHi,
You can go for pricing manually or automatic. If you need pricing automatic you have to go for use of Access Sequences and Schema Group of Vendor. You can customize your pricing procedure according to your requirement such as like Domestic, Import and Stock transport.
For the above individually you have to configure Pricing Procedure and the following steps are:
SPRO->MM->Purchasing->Conditions->Define Price determination process
1. Define Condition Table:
2.Define Access Sequence,
3.Define Condition Type,
4.Define Calculating Schema,
5.Assign Calculation Schema, Access Sequence and Condition Type,
6.Define Schema Group Of Vendor,
7. Define Schema Group Of Purchasing Organization,
8.Assign Schema Group Of Vendor to Purchasing Organization,
9.Assignment of Schema Group Of Vendor ,Schema Group Purchasing Organization and Calculation Schema.
10. Assign Vendor to Schema Group of Vendor (XK02)
11.Maintain Condition record (MEK1)
after above steps, you can go for create PO in ME21N.
In the case of Import PO, you have to activate Import PO.
SPRO->Materials Management -> Purchasing -> Foreign Trade/Customs ->Control Foreign Trade Data in MM and SD Documents -
Regards,
Biju K -
Using formula in price determination process for PO
Hi, dear experts,
I would like to define some conditions types for purchasing orders that allow me to calculate an insurance amount using the formula:
Insurance = [CF)((C+F)10%)]T
Where: C is the Gross price, F is the Freight and T is a factor that the user has to input
For that, I define a condition type for gross price, for the freight and for the T value
How can I have to define a condition type to do this operation?
On the other hand, the freight is a percentage of the gross price, but for this operation I need the amount, how can I make reference to this amount? (Result of gross price * freight (%))
Also, there is a link where can I find information regarding the price determination process?
Thanks in advance,
Mairo.Hi,
You can store (surely you have them in data) the data for C and F in values that you can config in pricing procedure in the field 'SubTo'. After, you can obtain the amount with a formula VOFM and set it in M/08 in field 'AltCTy'. You can check this links to know how to do it:
http://saptechsolutions.com/pdf/InsideVOFM.pdf
http://saptechsolutions.com/pdf/VOFMFormulaRoutines.pdf (althouth it's for SD, pricing procedure in SD (tcode V/08) and in MM (M/08) are the same.
I hope this helps you.
Regards,
Eduardo
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