Price List Loading

Why the data is not picked from interface tables and loaded into the base tables after running the concurrent program
"QP:BULK IMPORT OF PRICE LIST".We are adding new lines to the price list for already existing headers in the base table "QP_LIST_HEADERS".
We are passing interface_action_code="UPDATE" IN QP_INTERFACE_LIST_HEADERS And
interface_action_code="INSERT" IN QP_INTERFACE_LIST_LINES And QP_INTERFACE_PRICING_ATTRIBS.
Please kindly us know

Hi Raj,
Thanks a lot for the reply.
Actually I was thinking of loading the price at a daily level and at a Item - Location level so I'll have the SALES_DATE, ITEM_CODE, LOCATION_CODE, PRICE colums.
Let's say that I have the next situation: if one product has price 5 starting with 01.01.2011 till 05.31.2011 and starting with that date the price will be 6. How do I define that in the flat file ?
1. I insert 2 lines i.e.
SALES_DATE ITEM_CODE LOCATION_CODE PRICE
01.01.2011 X Y 5
05.31.2011 X Y 6
OR
2. I insert 1 line for each date starting with 01.01.2011 till 05.31.2011 and so on i.e.
SALES_DATE ITEM_CODE LOCATION_CODE PRICE
01.02.2011 X Y 5
01.03.2011 X Y 5
01.04.2011 X Y 5
05.31.2011 X Y 6
06.01.2011 X Y 6
06.02.2011 X Y 6
06.03.2011 X Y 6
Thak you
AMC

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/* Formatted on 14/05/2012 07:41:34 AM (QP5 v5.115.810.9015) */
DECLARE
v_return_status VARCHAR2 (1) := NULL;
v_msg_count NUMBER := 0;
v_msg_data VARCHAR2 (2000);
v_price_list_rec qp_price_list_pub.price_list_rec_type;
v_price_list_val_rec qp_price_list_pub.price_list_val_rec_type;
v_price_list_line_tbl qp_price_list_pub.price_list_line_tbl_type;
v_price_list_line_val_tbl qp_price_list_pub.price_list_line_val_tbl_type;
v_qualifiers_tbl qp_qualifier_rules_pub.qualifiers_tbl_type;
v_qualifiers_val_tbl qp_qualifier_rules_pub.qualifiers_val_tbl_type;
v_pricing_attr_tbl qp_price_list_pub.pricing_attr_tbl_type;
v_pricing_attr_val_tbl qp_price_list_pub.pricing_attr_val_tbl_type;
ppr_price_list_rec qp_price_list_pub.price_list_rec_type;
ppr_price_list_val_rec qp_price_list_pub.price_list_val_rec_type;
ppr_price_list_line_tbl qp_price_list_pub.price_list_line_tbl_type;
ppr_price_list_line_val_tbl qp_price_list_pub.price_list_line_val_tbl_type;
ppr_qualifiers_tbl qp_qualifier_rules_pub.qualifiers_tbl_type;
ppr_qualifiers_val_tbl qp_qualifier_rules_pub.qualifiers_val_tbl_type;
ppr_pricing_attr_tbl qp_price_list_pub.pricing_attr_tbl_type;
ppr_pricing_attr_val_tbl qp_price_list_pub.pricing_attr_val_tbl_type;
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v_pricing_attr_tbl (1).product_attribute_context := 'ITEM';
v_pricing_attr_tbl (1).product_attribute := 'PRICING_ATTRIBUTE1';
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v_pricing_attr_tbl (1).product_uom_code := 'KG';
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p_init_msg_list => fnd_api.g_true,
p_return_values => fnd_api.g_false,
p_commit => fnd_api.g_false,
x_return_status => v_return_status,
x_msg_count => v_msg_count,
x_msg_data => v_msg_data,
p_price_list_rec => v_price_list_rec,
p_price_list_line_tbl => v_price_list_line_tbl,
p_pricing_attr_tbl => v_pricing_attr_tbl,
x_price_list_rec => ppr_price_list_rec,
x_price_list_val_rec => ppr_price_list_val_rec,
x_price_list_line_tbl => ppr_price_list_line_tbl,
x_qualifiers_tbl => ppr_qualifiers_tbl,
x_qualifiers_val_tbl => ppr_qualifiers_val_tbl,
x_pricing_attr_tbl => ppr_pricing_attr_tbl,
x_pricing_attr_val_tbl => ppr_pricing_attr_val_tbl,
x_price_list_line_val_tbl => ppr_price_list_line_val_tbl);
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COMMIT;
DBMS_OUTPUT.put_line ('The Item loading into the price list is Sucessfull');
ELSE
DBMS_OUTPUT.put_line ('The Item loading into the price list Failed');
ROLLBACK;
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v_msg_data := oe_msg_pub.get (p_msg_index => i, p_encoded => 'F');
DBMS_OUTPUT.put_line (i || ') ' || v_msg_data);
END LOOP;
END IF;
END;
Error:
Calling API to Enter Item Into Price List
The Item loading into the price list Failed
1) ORA-01426: numeric overflow in Package QP_LIST_HEADERS_PVT Procedure Process_Price_List
Please guide me how could I resolve it?

NOW i AM GETTING THIS message:
Calling API to Enter Item Into Price List
The Item loading into the price list is Sucessfull
But it is not appearing on the form.
I have again run the script and get the followin error while there is no record appearing on the form:
Calling API to Enter Item Into Price List
The Item loading into the price list Failed
1) This name is already in use. Please choose another name.
2) This name is already in use. Please choose another name.
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