Prices on invoices not mantained - Discounts - Special Prices

Hello everybody,
I'm developing with SBO2005 A PL7 and DI API.
I have this problem with an our addon that generates invoices.
If I set this properties:
.Lines.Price = X
.Lines.DiscountPercent = Y
and I have Stock Management - Price Lists - Special Prices - Discount Groups setted for this customer,
the price X comes mantained ok, but the DiscountPercent Y comes overwritten on this instruction:
objInvoice.Add as if it takes another PriceList.
Do you know why?
How can I set this field AR/Invoice - Form Settings - Price List (for the document)?
Thank you
Andy

I intended the field Price List field in [Form 998, Item = 31, Variable = 2, OCTG.ListNum]
Thank you again

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30.03.2009 11:55 Reply to Reporter by SAP
Dear David,
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Scenario 1:
1., Administration -> System Initialization -> Document Settings ->
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30.03.2009 16:16 Reply to Support Center by David Kenny
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I have studied your response but I tink we may be discussing two
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