Problem in pricing determination in VA03

Hi All,
I am facing in pricing determination. There is inconsistency problem for pricing determination. For one of condition type ZCN1, we have maintained the price in condition record(VK11) but even after than the condition record does not get copied in the order. This is happening for some of the orders and not for all orders and not for all items for one order.
In VA03 T.code
E.g
Sales order:30000123 line item 15
The pricing date is 29.04.2007, but pricing in ZCN1 condition type could not be determined. In the pricing analysis screen it shows the confition record for the condition type ZCN1 but displays ''condition record found but not set'' we cheched for other orders/ line items this price was successfully copied. we are having such inconsistencies often.
Can any body suggest some solution.
Regads ,
Geetha

If it's a standard configuration that is not working, I would suggest to move this question to SD forum. Otherwise, if you have any user exits in pricing determination, the problem might be there. If it's a small piece of code, please post it here for a review.
Also in the pricing condition analysis take a look at what keys are used for the price determination. Often the problem is that the keys are incorrectly populated in the program.

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之后的下一个帖子我准备说说在日常使用pricing功能出现异常时一些简单的自查方法。
<Group conditions>
Use of group conditions
Compensation of rounding differences for percentage and fix amount conditions. Example:
Item 10 16% MWST based on 100,90 DEM = 16,14 DEM
Item 20 16% MWST based on 100,90 DEM = 16,14 DEM
but as u201Ereal tax baseu201C the total value must be used (legal requirement):
16% of 201,80 = 32,29 DEM !!!
cumluation of scale base value. E.g. 10 apples and 5 lemons are sold to a customer but there is a discount based on the total amount of ordered fruits (15 pieces)
split functionality: condition values or rates entered on header level are distributed to items. Example: Split a value of 100 DEM to 100 items (= 1 DEM set for each item).
Handling of structure conditions (KUMU). Example: Price is set on lower level item but the main item is relevant for billing
The processing of group conditions is performance critical, in standard there are only a few group conditions, e.g. MWST, SKTV
<Condition exclusion>
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Is set in the condition record or in the condition type (customizing)
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Restrictions: it is not possible to use different rules in parallel, zero values of conditions are not used for exclusion in standard (note 39641)
<T-cd:VOFM>
Maintenance for requirements and formulas
Requirements
Formulas for
Scale base
Condition base value
Condition Value
Structure of group key
Copying requirements
Data transfer routine
Requirements and formulas are entered in pricing procedure
Customer name space:
Group key routines 50-99
All others 600-999
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DOCUMENT_NUMBER_TO - to assign the conditions to the right document (e.g. cancellation)
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wrong setup. What do I wrong?
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with the percentage should not be filled anymore.
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Could you please explain me about the pricing determination procedure in SAP SD ?
Edited by: Piruthiviraja on Aug 18, 2009 8:00 AM

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