Problem resetting count on read with fp ctr-500 counter

Using the ctr-500 module with a FP-1000. I want to reset the count of a channel on each read. The CTR-500 manual says to selecting "Reset on Read" from the Value menu. I've done that but the counter never resets when I read it. I then tried clicking on "Creat item" under channel attributes in MAX. It creates an item called "Read Reset Mode @Count Input 0" under Data Neighborhood. Added that item to the program and wrote to it with both a 1 and 0, but when I read channel 0 it still will not reset. Obviously, I'm missing something. I would appreciate any help or a simple example so I can get this resolved. Thanks, Mike
Message Edited by mike72903 on 01-31-2008 10:51 AM
Attachments:
reset count1.vi ‏15 KB

Found an example. Thanks anyway

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For frequency measurement information on the FP-CTR-500/502 modules. Please see KnowledgeBase Article #1TB63SUS
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